[TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!)
- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:57:30 -0400
Having purchased a cheap 2 meg unit about 9 months ago I have three
comments. First, I should have spent some more to get one with a decent
optical zoom lense. Second, it is temperamental and sometimes decides it
just isnt going to work, so look for a long waranty. Third, it uses 4
alkaline AA cells and they dont last long.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889
Fax 271 2080
mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Svilpa" <robesv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!)
>
> Price difference between a 1.3 and a 2.1 Mpix is pretty negligent these
> days. Even some of the 3 Mpix cameras are down below $200 so buying a
> camera with better resolution shouldn't bankrupt anyone. I think if
> someone were really looking to cheap out they could buy a JamCam 2.0
> from WalMart for $25. I think I remember that thing having around 1.3
> Mpix resolution and was able to store 16 pictures at 640x480.
>
> Best advice to anyone - pick the highest resolution camera for the
> lowest price you can afford. Memory cards and other things can be add
> ons later.
>
> Rob Svilpa
> SDET
> Microsoft Corp.
> Redmond, WA
> (A friggin expensive place to live)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of teltek3
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 5:39 AM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Damon;
> 1.3 megapixel with todays technology is not enough if you are taking
> pictures that you may want to have taken to Print. I don't mean Print on
> the
> printer, since that technology is still evolving. But to have a picture
> blown to an 8X10...1,3 is not enough.I can send you 2 pictures taken
> with
> the old camera and the new, you would definitely see the difference.
> Difference is like taking a picture with a Brownie and a High Priced 35
> mil
> SLR.
>
>
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
>
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:10 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!)
>
>
> >
> > OK GUYS. Remember we're suggesting a camera for Phillip Bader's wife?
> Not
> > trying to suggest that we have the Best camera for the most
> persnickity
> > videophiles with deep pockets. Sheesh. Remember what Phil said:
> >
> > She wants to make and print out photos mostly of family and pets
> > > > for
> > > > > > > keepsake albums for the rest of the family. She has two nice
> HP
> > > > > > > printers, photo quality.
> >
> > Ed says 1.3 Megapixels aint' enough...Rob Svilpa talking about audio
> > resolution and blowing up pictures to 8 x 10......just how big does he
> think
> > Keepsake Albums are???
> >
> > C'mon guys......don't cloud the issue. Phil needs help on what will
> satisfy
> > his wife for a reasonable price, if he wants to take pictures of his
> SMDs
> he
> > would have told us.
> >
> > K.I.S.S.
> >
> > Damon Brunger
> > Telrad Electronic Services
> > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:46 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > There are people that can look at something, say a TV, and the TV
> tech
> > says,
> > > "that is too green" where someone else does not see it. There are
> people
> > > who can hear things that other people can not hear.
> > >
> > > Just because one person can not hear or see a difference does not
> mean
> > that
> > > no one can. It only takes one person to hear/see a difference to
> prove
> > that
> > > there is a difference.
> > >
> > > Wayne Vanaman
> > > Omega Electronics
> > > 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
> > >
> > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > >
> > > 850-456-5995 voice
> > > 850-458-6369 fax
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rob Svilpa" <robesv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:28 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey
> awaits!)
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, actually the differences become apparent when you're trying
> to
> > > > "blow up" the picture to 8x10 or larger. At that point you can see
> the
> > > > aliasing the photo software does to make the pixels look less
> digital
> > > > and more film like. If you're taking pictures of the Grand Canyon
> or
> > > > anything you'd like to blow up to a decent size to hang on your
> wall,
> > > > then the greater the number of pixels the better the picture
> quality.
> > > > But if you're just taking shots of your wife standing on the beach
> at
> > > > Cape Cod or basic candid shots of friends and family, well... 2.1
> Mpix
> > > > might be enough resolution for you.
> > > >
> > > > Also, with digital systems having the sample rates sitting at the
> > > > standard 44.1 kHz doesn't do justice to any of the sounds that
> fall
> > > > above the 15 kHz range. Your sampled wave gets closer and closer
> to a
> > > > pure square wave the higher the frequency gets, and on playback
> the
> > > > digital dithering has to do too much averaging and smoothing to
> make
> the
> > > > sound faithful to the original recorded signal. There are much
> higher
> > > > sample rates available in recording studios now (96 kHz) but since
> the
> > > > CD standard is 44.1 we still end up with a mashed version of the
> > music.=3D20
> > > >
> > > > For those interested in digital music recording, check out Tom
> Scholtz
> > > > (guitar/engineer for Boston) and his attitudes about it. He is
> scathing
> > > > in his criticism of digital media.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phillip R.
> Hull
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:20 AM
> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2.1 mega pixel I can not tell the difference between
> there
> > > > pictures and the 35mm prints, but I have a PhotoSmart printer
> also
> I
> > > > think alot of the hype is like sound systems that have a freq to
> 40,000
> > > > cycles but humans can only hear 20,000 The human eye probably
> can't
> > > > see
> > > > much difference between 2.1 and 3 or higher megapixel, but
> without
> the
> > > > right printer it won't help either.
> > > > Phillip R Hull STET
> > > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > FAX 517--569-3075
> > > > ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:00 AM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey
> awaits!)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.3 megapixel is not enough for prints. I know...I use one.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Ed-
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey
> awaits!)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First, 1.3 megapixels will give you extremely high quality in
> a 5
> x
> > > > 7
> > > > > print,
> > > > > > but 2 megapixels is good to 8 x 10. All others are BS unless
> you're
> > > > an
> > > > > > artist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2nd, memory...don't worry too much about that. Most cameras
> will
> > > > allow
> > > > you
> > > > > > to shoot at least 8 - 10 highest definition pictures with the
> memory
> > > > > > provided, and up to 96 pictures in the lowest definition. .
> Good
> > > > range
> > > > of
> > > > > > choices.....I'd be more concerned about cameras that use
> > > > "proprietary
> > > > > > memory" designs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Back when I purchased mine, there were 2 choices of
> memory...Smart
> > > > Card
> > > > > and
> > > > > > Compact Flash. I know they've evolved, but into what...I don't
> know.
> > > > > Logical
> > > > > > approach to memory is to go to Kmart and see what they hang on
> their
> > > > > > shelves. Then get on the phone with your locally owned camera
> film
> > > > > processor
> > > > > > / digital camera sales company and see what type of memory is
> used
> > > > in at
> > > > > > least 50 - 70 % of today's cameras.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That or you can call 1 (260) 485 - 3003 ask for the owner and
> ask
> > > > him
> > > > what
> > > > > > he recommends. He knows his stuff, I've heard him on the
> radio.
> This
> > > > guy
> > > > > is
> > > > > > set up for photo in both realms, film and digital.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But as for your needs...
> > > > > > Go 1.3 megapixel minimum
> > > > > > 8 megabyte card will give you enough.
> > > > > > Buy Nimh batteries (not Nicad).
> > > > > > Docking station is BS (either get a printer with a memory card
> slot
> > > > or
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > worry about it, ok?)
> > > > > > Buy Microsoft Picture It
> > > > > > (Adobe Photo does a lot more, costs a lot more, and I don't
> think
> > > > your
> > > > > wife
> > > > > > wants to Moire every picture of you, nor Gasteau her poodle,
> eh?)
> > > > It's
> > > > > > quick, simple and carrys enough power to do 99 % of your
> artistic
> > > > needs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The best thing I like about digital....Is the fact that I can
> take
> a
> > > > low
> > > > > > light picture, turn up the brightness/contrast and get what
> looks
> > > > like a
> > > > > > daylight picture. It's the adjustability of the Picture It
> software
> > > > that
> > > > I
> > > > > > use that really counts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Damon Brunger
> > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services
> > > > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:12 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Digital camera preferences? (wifey
> awaits!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wifey is wanting a digital camera.
> > > > > > > So many choices and options. Some have movie modes with and
> > > > without
> > > > > > > sound.This is not a necessity as we have a VHS-C
> camcorder.(movies
> > > > on
> > > > > > > these digitals are not the best anyway)
> > > > > > > She wants to make and print out photos mostly of family and
> pets
> > > > for
> > > > > > > keepsake albums for the rest of the family. She has two nice
> HP
> > > > > > > printers, photo quality.
> > > > > > > The PC is 1.8 GHz P4, 256 Megs, (with CDRW),etc and several
> USB
> > > > ports.
> > > > > > > I don't want to go 500-600 bucks.Memory and pixels seems to
> be
> the
> > > > thing
> > > > > > > here especially doing better quality photos for prints.Some
> use
> > > > > > > proprietary memory,I think.Some are more costly than others.
> > > > > > > Dock stations,or not...
> > > > > > > Macro for close ups?
> > > > > > > Number of pictures per session...
> > > > > > > I'm lost.
> > > > > > > I need your considered opinions.Will print them and present
> them
> > > > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > "boss".
> > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > Phil Bader
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Philip Bader
> > > > > > > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> > > > > > > 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> > > > > > > Fax (863) 299-8821
> > > > > > > email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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