Damon; 1.3 megapixel with todays technology is not enough if you are taking pictures that you may want to have taken to Print. I don't mean Print on the printer, since that technology is still evolving. But to have a picture blown to an 8X10...1,3 is not enough.I can send you 2 pictures taken with the old camera and the new, you would definitely see the difference. Difference is like taking a picture with a Brownie and a High Priced 35 mil SLR. Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:10 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > OK GUYS. Remember we're suggesting a camera for Phillip Bader's wife? Not > trying to suggest that we have the Best camera for the most persnickity > videophiles with deep pockets. Sheesh. Remember what Phil said: > > She wants to make and print out photos mostly of family and pets > > > for > > > > > > keepsake albums for the rest of the family. She has two nice HP > > > > > > printers, photo quality. > > Ed says 1.3 Megapixels aint' enough...Rob Svilpa talking about audio > resolution and blowing up pictures to 8 x 10......just how big does he think > Keepsake Albums are??? > > C'mon guys......don't cloud the issue. Phil needs help on what will satisfy > his wife for a reasonable price, if he wants to take pictures of his SMDs he > would have told us. > > K.I.S.S. > > Damon Brunger > Telrad Electronic Services > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:46 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > There are people that can look at something, say a TV, and the TV tech > says, > > "that is too green" where someone else does not see it. There are people > > who can hear things that other people can not hear. > > > > Just because one person can not hear or see a difference does not mean > that > > no one can. It only takes one person to hear/see a difference to prove > that > > there is a difference. > > > > Wayne Vanaman > > Omega Electronics > > 6904 W Fairfield Dr > > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > > > 850-456-5995 voice > > 850-458-6369 fax > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob Svilpa" <robesv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:28 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > Well, actually the differences become apparent when you're trying to > > > "blow up" the picture to 8x10 or larger. At that point you can see the > > > aliasing the photo software does to make the pixels look less digital > > > and more film like. If you're taking pictures of the Grand Canyon or > > > anything you'd like to blow up to a decent size to hang on your wall, > > > then the greater the number of pixels the better the picture quality. > > > But if you're just taking shots of your wife standing on the beach at > > > Cape Cod or basic candid shots of friends and family, well... 2.1 Mpix > > > might be enough resolution for you. > > > > > > Also, with digital systems having the sample rates sitting at the > > > standard 44.1 kHz doesn't do justice to any of the sounds that fall > > > above the 15 kHz range. Your sampled wave gets closer and closer to a > > > pure square wave the higher the frequency gets, and on playback the > > > digital dithering has to do too much averaging and smoothing to make the > > > sound faithful to the original recorded signal. There are much higher > > > sample rates available in recording studios now (96 kHz) but since the > > > CD standard is 44.1 we still end up with a mashed version of the > music.=20 > > > > > > For those interested in digital music recording, check out Tom Scholtz > > > (guitar/engineer for Boston) and his attitudes about it. He is scathing > > > in his criticism of digital media. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phillip R. Hull > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:20 AM > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a 2.1 mega pixel I can not tell the difference between there > > > pictures and the 35mm prints, but I have a PhotoSmart printer also I > > > think alot of the hype is like sound systems that have a freq to 40,000 > > > cycles but humans can only hear 20,000 The human eye probably can't > > > see > > > much difference between 2.1 and 3 or higher megapixel, but without the > > > right printer it won't help either. > > > Phillip R Hull STET > > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > FAX 517--569-3075 > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:00 AM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.3 megapixel is not enough for prints. I know...I use one. > > > > > > > > -Ed- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:52 AM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, 1.3 megapixels will give you extremely high quality in a 5 x > > > 7 > > > > print, > > > > > but 2 megapixels is good to 8 x 10. All others are BS unless you're > > > an > > > > > artist. > > > > > > > > > > 2nd, memory...don't worry too much about that. Most cameras will > > > allow > > > you > > > > > to shoot at least 8 - 10 highest definition pictures with the memory > > > > > provided, and up to 96 pictures in the lowest definition. . Good > > > range > > > of > > > > > choices.....I'd be more concerned about cameras that use > > > "proprietary > > > > > memory" designs. > > > > > > > > > > Back when I purchased mine, there were 2 choices of memory...Smart > > > Card > > > > and > > > > > Compact Flash. I know they've evolved, but into what...I don't know. > > > > Logical > > > > > approach to memory is to go to Kmart and see what they hang on their > > > > > shelves. Then get on the phone with your locally owned camera film > > > > processor > > > > > / digital camera sales company and see what type of memory is used > > > in at > > > > > least 50 - 70 % of today's cameras. > > > > > > > > > > That or you can call 1 (260) 485 - 3003 ask for the owner and ask > > > him > > > what > > > > > he recommends. He knows his stuff, I've heard him on the radio. This > > > guy > > > > is > > > > > set up for photo in both realms, film and digital. > > > > > > > > > > But as for your needs... > > > > > Go 1.3 megapixel minimum > > > > > 8 megabyte card will give you enough. > > > > > Buy Nimh batteries (not Nicad). > > > > > Docking station is BS (either get a printer with a memory card slot > > > or > > > > don't > > > > > worry about it, ok?) > > > > > Buy Microsoft Picture It > > > > > (Adobe Photo does a lot more, costs a lot more, and I don't think > > > your > > > > wife > > > > > wants to Moire every picture of you, nor Gasteau her poodle, eh?) > > > It's > > > > > quick, simple and carrys enough power to do 99 % of your artistic > > > needs. > > > > > > > > > > The best thing I like about digital....Is the fact that I can take a > > > low > > > > > light picture, turn up the brightness/contrast and get what looks > > > like a > > > > > daylight picture. It's the adjustability of the Picture It software > > > that > > > I > > > > > use that really counts. > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > Damon Brunger > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services > > > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:12 AM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wifey is wanting a digital camera. > > > > > > So many choices and options. Some have movie modes with and > > > without > > > > > > sound.This is not a necessity as we have a VHS-C camcorder.(movies > > > on > > > > > > these digitals are not the best anyway) > > > > > > She wants to make and print out photos mostly of family and pets > > > for > > > > > > keepsake albums for the rest of the family. She has two nice HP > > > > > > printers, photo quality. > > > > > > The PC is 1.8 GHz P4, 256 Megs, (with CDRW),etc and several USB > > > ports. > > > > > > I don't want to go 500-600 bucks.Memory and pixels seems to be the > > > thing > > > > > > here especially doing better quality photos for prints.Some use > > > > > > proprietary memory,I think.Some are more costly than others. > > > > > > Dock stations,or not... > > > > > > Macro for close ups? > > > > > > Number of pictures per session... > > > > > > I'm lost. > > > > > > I need your considered opinions.Will print them and present them > > > to > > > the > > > > > > "boss". > > > > > > many thanks. > > > > > > Phil Bader > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Philip Bader > > > > > > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > > > > > > 3420 Recker Hwy. 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