[talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:08:06 +0100
the N86 is far superior, I'd even guess that the N82 and N85 were too.
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On 3 Jun 2011, at 15:49, ali kazi wrote:
That's interesting. I was searching for phones online, and the only
decent phone without a qwerty keyboard or a touchscreen I could find was
the N96. It has 16gb of internal memory and wifi and all the awesome
stuff.
I miss my E66, brilliant phone. Too bad it got stolen.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:52:38 +0100, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
<forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Elinor,
>
> why would there be updates to a phone that was discontinued years ago,
> that phone has to be at least 4 years old now. although not old to you
> and I, it is a dinosaur in terms of technology.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
>
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> On 3 Jun 2011, at 09:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>
> I have an N96 which I love. However, Neil's comment is interesting as I
> find that there do not appear to be recent firmware updates.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
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> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>
>
> Ali,
>
> the N96 is much older than the devices I mentioned, and you've got very
> little chance of getting an N96 these days.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
>
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> On 3 Jun 2011, at 02:19, ali kazi wrote:
>
> Neil,
>
> Isn't the N96 just as good as the phones you mentioned?
> Seriously, the letters and numbers just confuse me, I have absolutely no
> idea which series comes first. There is no chronology, my e66 is better
> than my n70 but the n95/6 seem to be better than the E66.
>
> Ali
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:35:58 +0100, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
> <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>> the E5 has WiFi the C5 does not.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Neil Barnfather
>>
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On 1 Jun 2011, at 18:48, Mike Cassidy wrote:
>>
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>> Which of your listed phones has wi-fi?
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: 31 May 2011 20:35
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> touch devices are not necessarily cheaper to make, its been a good few
>> years
>> now since I was in the phone building business, but have to believe that
>> a
>> touch sensitive display module costs at least double to triple the costs
>> of
>> a button based module.
>>
>> Nokia still make the following exclusively button devices, the Nokia C5,
>> E5,
>> N86 and E72 / E73.
>>
>> you can also go for a half way house with something like the N97 / N97
>> Mini,
>> C6, E7 for totally brand new and more besides.
>>
>> Anyone with an existing TAlks license should really consider these
>> devices
>> over the purely touch devices from Apple and Google until accessibility
>> in
>> the form of Talks and Mobile Speak has truly made it to these devices.
>>
>> a good high end Nokia, like those outlined above I'd expect to last you
>> at
>> least 2 years, if not a little longer.
>>
>> with regards to the iPod Touch not having the network data function, this
>> is
>> the only reason I have an iPhone rather than an iPod Touch, but being
>> honest, what I should have done is bought the iPod Touch and then simply
>> enabled the sharing of my WiFi on my Nokia, which costs no more at all,
>> unlike the expensive business of tethering with an iPHone etc, and then
>> just
>> bought something like Joiku so that my iPod Touch could get data.
>>
>> this is my current recommendation to people, keep a Nokia for Talks and
>> then
>> get an iPod Touch / iPad for consumption.
>>
>> don't forget you can always get data products on your Nokia like e-mail
>> etc.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Neil Barnfather
>>
>> Talks List Administrator
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On 31 May 2011, at 08:13, Graham Page wrote:
>>
>> Hi Neil.
>>
>> I agree with what you say entirely, though if you go for an IPod you
>> will
>> not of course be able to access much while you are out and about. In the
>> UK
>> at least, wifi connectivity is patchy to say the least!
>>
>> Bringing things back more on topic, My big question is what non-touch
>> screen
>> devices are still available for use with TALKS? Is it really worth
>> anyone
>> investing in Talks at the moment if new devices are likely to dry up in
>> the
>> next few months. There are of course low end devices from companies like
>> Nokia that do as much as most people would want to do but they cannot
>> run
>> TALKS. The truth is that manufacturers are bullying society into
>> believing
>> that touch screen is always better since touch screen devices are much
>> cheaper to make.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Graham
>> Graham Page
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: 30 May 2011 22:31
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really tasked
>> with
>> helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a none Talks
>> device.
>>
>> however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view for
>> you.
>>
>> The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you are
>> accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your objective
>> is
>> to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes.
>>
>> let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our needs
>> when
>> you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading e-mail, reading
>> text
>> messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts.
>>
>> where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data back
>> into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and irritating.
>>
>> this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any touch
>> only
>> device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, so to speak,
>> iPad
>> and iPod Touch etc.
>>
>> My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text messaging
>> one
>> issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch only device is never
>> going to be that great as a device for making and receiving calls and
>> typing
>> out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that
>> you
>> can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity
>> and
>> weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those issues
>> already exists.
>>
>> Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet surfing,
>> depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or inputting to,
>> and
>> app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple devices do well.
>>
>> My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an iPhone
>> without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making it into a
>> phone
>> should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no rental and will
>> give
>> you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not compromise
>> your phone call / texting ability.
>>
>> I hope that this helps in some way.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Neil Barnfather
>>
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
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>>
>>
>> On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june
>> 2009, I
>>
>> feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier to
>> navigate round the internet.
>>
>> I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined keyborad
>> or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone.
>>
>> regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I
>> could
>> get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as I wouldn't
>> have thought so.
>>
>> I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon.
>>
>> I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I could
>> do
>>
>> with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to buy
>> one.
>>
>> Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> paul.
>>
>>
>>
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