[talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:52:38 +0100
Elinor,
why would there be updates to a phone that was discontinued years ago, that
phone has to be at least 4 years old now. although not old to you and I, it is
a dinosaur in terms of technology.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
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On 3 Jun 2011, at 09:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:
I have an N96 which I love. However, Neil's comment is interesting as I find
that there do not appear to be recent firmware updates.
Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:49 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
Ali,
the N96 is much older than the devices I mentioned, and you've got very little
chance of getting an N96 these days.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
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On 3 Jun 2011, at 02:19, ali kazi wrote:
Neil,
Isn't the N96 just as good as the phones you mentioned?
Seriously, the letters and numbers just confuse me, I have absolutely no
idea which series comes first. There is no chronology, my e66 is better
than my n70 but the n95/6 seem to be better than the E66.
Ali
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:35:58 +0100, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
<forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> the E5 has WiFi the C5 does not.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
>
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
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>
>
>
> On 1 Jun 2011, at 18:48, Mike Cassidy wrote:
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> Which of your listed phones has wi-fi?
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: 31 May 2011 20:35
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>
> Graham,
>
> touch devices are not necessarily cheaper to make, its been a good few
> years
> now since I was in the phone building business, but have to believe that
> a
> touch sensitive display module costs at least double to triple the costs
> of
> a button based module.
>
> Nokia still make the following exclusively button devices, the Nokia C5,
> E5,
> N86 and E72 / E73.
>
> you can also go for a half way house with something like the N97 / N97
> Mini,
> C6, E7 for totally brand new and more besides.
>
> Anyone with an existing TAlks license should really consider these
> devices
> over the purely touch devices from Apple and Google until accessibility
> in
> the form of Talks and Mobile Speak has truly made it to these devices.
>
> a good high end Nokia, like those outlined above I'd expect to last you
> at
> least 2 years, if not a little longer.
>
> with regards to the iPod Touch not having the network data function, this
> is
> the only reason I have an iPhone rather than an iPod Touch, but being
> honest, what I should have done is bought the iPod Touch and then simply
> enabled the sharing of my WiFi on my Nokia, which costs no more at all,
> unlike the expensive business of tethering with an iPHone etc, and then
> just
> bought something like Joiku so that my iPod Touch could get data.
>
> this is my current recommendation to people, keep a Nokia for Talks and
> then
> get an iPod Touch / iPad for consumption.
>
> don't forget you can always get data products on your Nokia like e-mail
> etc.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
>
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
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>
>
>
> On 31 May 2011, at 08:13, Graham Page wrote:
>
> Hi Neil.
>
> I agree with what you say entirely, though if you go for an IPod you
> will
> not of course be able to access much while you are out and about. In the
> UK
> at least, wifi connectivity is patchy to say the least!
>
> Bringing things back more on topic, My big question is what non-touch
> screen
> devices are still available for use with TALKS? Is it really worth
> anyone
> investing in Talks at the moment if new devices are likely to dry up in
> the
> next few months. There are of course low end devices from companies like
> Nokia that do as much as most people would want to do but they cannot
> run
> TALKS. The truth is that manufacturers are bullying society into
> believing
> that touch screen is always better since touch screen devices are much
> cheaper to make.
>
> Regards
>
> Graham
> Graham Page
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: 30 May 2011 22:31
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>
> Paul,
>
> firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really tasked
> with
> helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a none Talks
> device.
>
> however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view for
> you.
>
> The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you are
> accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your objective
> is
> to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes.
>
> let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our needs
> when
> you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading e-mail, reading
> text
> messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts.
>
> where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data back
> into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and irritating.
>
> this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any touch
> only
> device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, so to speak,
> iPad
> and iPod Touch etc.
>
> My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text messaging
> one
> issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch only device is never
> going to be that great as a device for making and receiving calls and
> typing
> out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that
> you
> can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity
> and
> weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those issues
> already exists.
>
> Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet surfing,
> depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or inputting to,
> and
> app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple devices do well.
>
> My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an iPhone
> without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making it into a
> phone
> should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no rental and will
> give
> you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not compromise
> your phone call / texting ability.
>
> I hope that this helps in some way.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
>
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
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> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
>
>
>
> On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june
> 2009, I
>
> feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier to
> navigate round the internet.
>
> I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined keyborad
> or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone.
>
> regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I
> could
> get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as I wouldn't
> have thought so.
>
> I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon.
>
> I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I could
> do
>
> with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to buy
> one.
>
> Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome.
>
> Regards
>
> paul.
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