Brilliant and open and honest. -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 30/05/2011 10:50 pm the thing here people is that if you want to input anything into your phone then a touch device makes that slower, you need to be the judge of how annoying that may be. I'm not here to say that touch devices like iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch or Android devices are no good, they are good, and they are nicely made etc, but they are not as good, in my view, for us when it comes to the input side of things. so if you're looking to get something out of your device though they deserve serious consideration. I own both an iPod Touch and an iPad and love them, but could never use them as a phone / text / e-mail device without lobbing them out the window a minute or so later. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 30 May 2011, at 22:45, Eleanor Burke wrote: Brilliant thanks Neil, just what I wanted to read also and I concur with all you say. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone Paul, firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really tasked with helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a none Talks device. however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view for you. The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you are accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your objective is to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes. let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our needs when you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading e-mail, reading text messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts. where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data back into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and irritating. this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any touch only device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, so to speak, iPad and iPod Touch etc. My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text messaging one issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch only device is never going to be that great as a device for making and receiving calls and typing out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that you can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity and weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those issues already exists. Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet surfing, depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or inputting to, and app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple devices do well. My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an iPhone without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making it into a phone should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no rental and will give you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not compromise your phone call / texting ability. I hope that this helps in some way. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote: Hi all, Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june 2009, I feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier to navigate round the internet. I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined keyboard or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone. regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I could get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as I wouldn't have thought so. I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon. I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I could do with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to buy one. Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome. Regards paul.