Amie I think it is probably the htc Desire z that you are talking about. I also would fully agree with Adrian and Neil on the pros and cons of touch screen devices. Most people would want to get a new phone perhaps by upgrading through their provider and i think there will soon be no devices with a keypad we can get hold of in this way. Sent from my iPhone On 31 May 2011, at 12:48, "Amie Slavin" <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's an Android something Desire. Think it's Android THC Desire; can that > be right? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: 31 May 2011 11:51 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone > > How about giving the model number then. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amie Slavin" <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:48 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone > > >> My partner's android definitely has a proper little qwerty keyboard, I >> promise; it lives in the same house with me lol. >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Graham Page >> Sent: 31 May 2011 09:08 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone >> >> Far far from it. >> >> Firstly, most android phones are touch screen phones. Some have a track >> ball or arrow keys that you can use but the trend is more and more towards >> touch phones. >> >> There is a company called Code Factory that had created some accessible >> programs and a screenreader to work on android phones. This is great and >> the programs are accessible but the problem seems to be that there is no >> accessibility built into the heart of Android. It is fair to say that >> Android phones and IPhones will eventually both be very accessible but >> these are all touch screen phones. We really do need an alternative with >> a >> t9 keypad. >> >> Regards >> >> Graham >> >> Graham Page >> Mobile: 07753 607980 >> Fax: 0870 706 2773 >> Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx >> Skype: gabriel_mcbird >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Amie Slavin >> Sent: 31 May 2011 08:40 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone >> >> Sounds sensible. What about android though? That seems like maybe the >> full >> solution to everything, is it? >> A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> Sent: 30 May 2011 22:31 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone >> >> Paul, >> >> firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really tasked >> with >> helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a none Talks device. >> >> however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view for >> you. >> >> The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you are >> accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your objective is >> to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes. >> >> let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our needs >> when >> you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading e-mail, reading >> text >> messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts. >> >> where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data back >> into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and irritating. >> >> this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any touch >> only >> device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, so to speak, iPad >> and iPod Touch etc. >> >> My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text messaging >> one >> issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch only device is never >> going to be that great as a device for making and receiving calls and >> typing >> out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that >> you >> can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity >> and >> weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those issues >> already exists. >> >> Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet surfing, >> depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or inputting to, >> and >> app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple devices do well. >> >> My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an iPhone >> without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making it into a >> phone >> should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no rental and will give >> you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not compromise >> your phone call / texting ability. >> >> I hope that this helps in some way. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june 2009, > >> I >> >> feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier to >> navigate round the internet. >> >> I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined keyborad >> or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone. >> >> regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I could >> get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as I wouldn't >> have thought so. >> >> I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon. >> >> I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I could >> do >> >> with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to buy >> one. >> >> Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome. >> >> Regards >> >> paul. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3669 - Release Date: 05/30/11 >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3670 - Release Date: 05/30/11 >> >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3670 - Release Date: 05/30/11 > >