[talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone

  • From: Graham Page <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:54:07 +0100

Amie I think it is probably the htc
 Desire z that you are talking about.
I also would fully agree with Adrian and Neil on the pros and cons of touch 
screen devices.
  Most people would want to get a new phone perhaps by upgrading through their 
provider and i think there will soon be no devices with a keypad we can get 
hold of in this way.

Sent from my iPhone

On 31 May 2011, at 12:48, "Amie Slavin" <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> It's an Android something Desire.  Think it's Android THC Desire; can that
> be right?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 31 May 2011 11:51
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
> 
> How about giving the model number then.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Amie Slavin" <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:48 AM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
> 
> 
>> My partner's android definitely has a proper little qwerty keyboard, I
>> promise; it lives in the same house with me lol.
>> A
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Graham Page
>> Sent: 31 May 2011 09:08
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>> 
>> Far far from it.
>> 
>> Firstly, most android phones are touch screen phones.   Some have a track
>> ball or arrow keys that you can use but the trend is more and more towards
>> touch phones.
>> 
>> There is a company called Code Factory that had created some accessible
>> programs and a screenreader to work on android phones.  This is great and
>> the programs are accessible but the problem seems to be that  there is no
>> accessibility built into the heart of Android.  It is fair to say that
>> Android phones and IPhones will eventually both be very accessible  but
>> these are all touch screen phones.  We really do need an alternative with 
>> a
>> t9 keypad.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> Graham Page
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Amie Slavin
>> Sent: 31 May 2011 08:40
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>> 
>> Sounds sensible.  What about android though?  That seems like maybe the 
>> full
>> solution to everything, is it?
>> A
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: 30 May 2011 22:31
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really tasked 
>> with
>> helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a none Talks device.
>> 
>> however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view for
>> you.
>> 
>> The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you are
>> accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your objective is
>> to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes.
>> 
>> let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our needs 
>> when
>> you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading e-mail, reading 
>> text
>> messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts.
>> 
>> where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data back
>> into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and irritating.
>> 
>> this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any touch 
>> only
>> device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, so to speak, iPad
>> and iPod Touch etc.
>> 
>> My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text messaging 
>> one
>> issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch only device is never
>> going to be that great as a device for making and receiving calls and 
>> typing
>> out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that 
>> you
>> can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity 
>> and
>> weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those issues
>> already exists.
>> 
>> Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet surfing,
>> depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or inputting to, 
>> and
>> app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple devices do well.
>> 
>> My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an iPhone
>> without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making it into a 
>> phone
>> should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no rental and will give
>> you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not compromise
>> your phone call / texting ability.
>> 
>> I hope that this helps in some way.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june 2009,
> 
>> I
>> 
>> feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier to
>> navigate round the internet.
>> 
>> I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined keyborad
>> or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone.
>> 
>> regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I could
>> get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as I wouldn't
>> have thought so.
>> 
>> I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon.
>> 
>> I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I could 
>> do
>> 
>> with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to buy 
>> one.
>> 
>> Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> paul.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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