[talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone

  • From: "darren harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:56 +0100

My partner has an n86 it's rather good in my opinion. 

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On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: 03 June 2011 21:08
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone


the N86 is far superior, I'd even guess that the N82 and N85 were too.


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On 3 Jun 2011, at 15:49, ali kazi wrote:

That's interesting. I was searching for phones online, and the only decent
phone without a qwerty keyboard or a touchscreen I could find was the N96.
It has 16gb of internal memory and wifi and all the awesome stuff.

I miss my E66, brilliant phone. Too bad it got stolen.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:52:38 +0100, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
<forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Elinor,
> 
> why would there be updates to a phone that was discontinued years ago, 
> that phone has to be at least 4 years old now. although not old to you 
> and I, it is a dinosaur in terms of technology.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
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> 
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> 
> On 3 Jun 2011, at 09:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:
> 
> I have an N96 which I love.  However, Neil's comment is interesting as 
> I find that there do not appear to be recent firmware updates.
> 
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" 
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> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:49 AM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
> 
> 
> Ali,
> 
> the N96 is much older than the devices I mentioned, and you've got 
> very little chance of getting an N96 these days.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
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> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On 3 Jun 2011, at 02:19, ali kazi wrote:
> 
> Neil,
> 
> Isn't the N96 just as good as the phones you mentioned? Seriously, the 
> letters and numbers just confuse me, I have absolutely no idea which 
> series comes first. There is no chronology, my e66 is better than my 
> n70 but the n95/6 seem to be better than the E66.
> 
> Ali
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:35:58 +0100, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" 
> <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>> the E5 has WiFi the C5 does not.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your 
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>> e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1 Jun 2011, at 18:48, Mike Cassidy wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Neil,
>> 
>> Which of your listed phones has wi-fi?
>> 
>> Thanks and regards,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: 31 May 2011 20:35
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>> 
>> Graham,
>> 
>> touch devices are not necessarily cheaper to make, its been a good 
>> few years now since I was in the phone building business, but have to 
>> believe that a
>> touch sensitive display module costs at least double to triple the costs
>> of
>> a button based module.
>> 
>> Nokia still make the following exclusively button devices, the Nokia 
>> C5, E5, N86 and E72 / E73.
>> 
>> you can also go for a half way house with something like the N97 / 
>> N97 Mini, C6, E7 for totally brand new and more besides.
>> 
>> Anyone with an existing TAlks license should really consider these 
>> devices over the purely touch devices from Apple and Google until 
>> accessibility in
>> the form of Talks and Mobile Speak has truly made it to these devices.
>> 
>> a good high end Nokia, like those outlined above I'd expect to last 
>> you at least 2 years, if not a little longer.
>> 
>> with regards to the iPod Touch not having the network data function, 
>> this is the only reason I have an iPhone rather than an iPod Touch, 
>> but being honest, what I should have done is bought the iPod Touch 
>> and then simply enabled the sharing of my WiFi on my Nokia, which 
>> costs no more at all, unlike the expensive business of tethering with 
>> an iPHone etc, and then just
>> bought something like Joiku so that my iPod Touch could get data.
>> 
>> this is my current recommendation to people, keep a Nokia for Talks 
>> and then get an iPod Touch / iPad for consumption.
>> 
>> don't forget you can always get data products on your Nokia like 
>> e-mail etc.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your 
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
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>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 31 May 2011, at 08:13, Graham Page wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Neil.
>> 
>> I agree with what you say entirely, though if you go for an IPod  you 
>> will not of course be able to access much while you are out and 
>> about.  In the UK
>> at least, wifi connectivity is patchy to say the least!
>> 
>> Bringing things back more on topic, My big question is what non-touch 
>> screen devices are still available for use with TALKS?  Is it really 
>> worth anyone
>> investing in Talks at the moment if new devices are likely to dry up in
>> the
>> next few months.  There are of course low end devices from companies like
>> Nokia that do as much as most people would want  to do but they cannot
>> run
>> TALKS.  The truth is that manufacturers are bullying society into
>> believing
>> that touch screen is always better since touch screen devices are much
>> cheaper to make.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Graham
>> Graham Page
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: 30 May 2011 22:31
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really 
>> tasked with helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a 
>> none Talks device.
>> 
>> however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view 
>> for you.
>> 
>> The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you 
>> are accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your 
>> objective is to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes.
>> 
>> let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our 
>> needs when you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading 
>> e-mail, reading text
>> messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts.
>> 
>> where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data 
>> back into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and 
>> irritating.
>> 
>> this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any 
>> touch only device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, 
>> so to speak, iPad
>> and iPod Touch etc.
>> 
>> My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text 
>> messaging one issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch 
>> only device is never going to be that great as a device for making 
>> and receiving calls and typing
>> out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that
>> you
>> can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity
>> and
>> weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those issues
>> already exists.
>> 
>> Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet 
>> surfing, depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or 
>> inputting to, and app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple 
>> devices do well.
>> 
>> My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an 
>> iPhone without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making 
>> it into a phone should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no 
>> rental and will give
>> you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not compromise
>> your phone call / texting ability.
>> 
>> I hope that this helps in some way.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your 
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
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>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june 
>> 2009, I
>> 
>> feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier 
>> to navigate round the internet.
>> 
>> I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined 
>> keyborad or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone.
>> 
>> regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I 
>> could get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as 
>> I wouldn't have thought so.
>> 
>> I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon.
>> 
>> I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I 
>> could do
>> 
>> with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to 
>> buy one.
>> 
>> Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> paul.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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