[tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse

  • From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:17:51 -0500

Yes, exactly, and I was set straight in a later message by Barbara in
which she said they were willing to help, just not to administer.

Chip





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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Atkins
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:31 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse
> 
> Ms. Darla,
> 
> No one appreciate the Lighthouse more than I do and,
> 
> I'll say the same about my reference to  Chip and the work 
> he's doing, but, 
> I think here, I also need to add,
> 
> The Lighthouse and Chip in order to make things better for the blind,
> 
> must do a vast amount of trouble shooting and,
> 
> both are sincere enough to share those observations when they 
> call them, 
> with the rest of us.
> 
> So, they write it in an e-mail that we all get to see.
> 
> I'm sure no harm is intended from either agency to tarnish 
> the always good 
> intentions of the other!
> 
> I feel that because of their united efforts,
> 
> someday, all,
> 
> will be made better for all of us!
> 
> Not to worry!
> 
> Right Guys?
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darla J. Rogers" <djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:07 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse
> 
> 
> > Dear Chip,
> >
> > Why do you insist on bashing the Lighthouse; I guess 
> Barbara knows the 
> > legalities of their getting involved with something like 
> this, and through 
> > this past five years, especially, the Lighthouse has 
> supported us in every 
> > way it can--publicity; assistance with writing letters and 
> knowing to whom 
> > to address them; attending our consumer group meetings; 
> making Saturday 
> > tech training possible and many more activities.
> >
> > Darla
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:32 PM
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse
> >
> >
> >> Thanks Victoria.
> >>
> >> Well, I hope nfb and TCB will talk about it; I'm sorry to see the 
> >> Lighthouse
> >> isn't really interested in participating, and I disagree about the
> >> complexity of record keeping; that is, since we would not 
> be accountible 
> >> to
> >> some funding source for every dollar, we would not have to 
> do a lot of
> >> accounting tasks that the charities to hand out money 
> would normally have 
> >> to
> >> do.
> >>
> >> we'd really only have to track who made what payments, and 
> deposit the
> >> money.
> >>
> >> the other admin tasks would be a committee who would have 
> to evaluate
> >> applications.
> >>
> >> I think the no interest, and no financial qualifications 
> part of this 
> >> idea
> >> are important ones.
> >>
> >> Chip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Yvonne Britton
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:41 PM
> >> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse
> >>
> >> I think this would be a good idea Chip. I am saying this 
> from my own
> >> experience with FAAST. I went to them and ask for a loan 
> so I could 
> >> purchase
> >> a new computer and they said that I should not want to get 
> myself in 
> >> debt. I
> >> feel like if I want to borrow money for something I need 
> to better myself 
> >> I
> >> should be the one who can decide if I can afford it or 
> not. . Things that 
> >> we
> >> how are  in the blind  community need things that are too 
> expensive and 
> >> if
> >> we can not get a loan to buy something I think is very 
> wrong. You should
> >> have the mind to decide if you can afford what ever you 
> might need. We 
> >> have
> >> this organization and we deserve a chance.There some of us 
> who don't have
> >> jobs but we do have a income so therefore we should have a 
> chance to get
> >> what we need. I myself am tried of putting my money in a refurbish 
> >> computer
> >> and there are other things I need. So people give us a chance.
> >> Victoria LOVES YOU AND SO DO I!!!
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:57 PM
> >> Subject: [tabi] I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse
> >>
> >> hi all,
> >>
> >> I had an idea I hoped the leaders of our 3 big non-profits here in
> >> town would take up; I think it's worth doing, and it would give us 
> >> something
> >> else to focus on besides the bus system, which is more 
> than a little
> >> divisive.
> >>
> >> What I've noticed is that when I'm speaking with many blind people,
> >> and I mention a possible technical solution to a problem 
> they're having,
> >> their response is often something like "that would be 
> great, but I can't
> >> afford it."
> >>
> >> understandable of course; we all know assistive technology is
> >> expensive, and we need a lot of it.
> >>
> >> so, what if for this area of Florida served by the Lighthouse, we
> >> began a fund to which we all contributed, which was then 
> used to provide 
> >> no
> >> interest loans for the purchase of assistive technology?
> >>
> >> I was hoping one group would take on the administration of 
> the fund,
> >> and all 3 groups would contribute to it, or fund raise for 
> it, as a joint
> >> project.  I'll offer to start it off with $100 if someone 
> will take it 
> >> on.
> >>
> >> I also hoped the fund could be run in such a way that a person's
> >> need for the technology, or their ability to pay, would 
> not be a factor 
> >> in
> >> receiving the loan.    I'd like this to be as free from 
> value judgments 
> >> as
> >> possible.  Perhaps just as the person what payment 
> schedule they thought
> >> that they could afford.
> >>
> >> a lot of microbanks in very poor areas of the world are quite
> >> successful, with nearly 100% payback rates, when being run 
> like this, by
> >> simply requiring a family member or friend to cosign the loan 
> >> application,
> >> guaranteeing payback if the primary applicant fails to do 
> so.  this seems 
> >> to
> >> serve as a screening tool (if you can't produce one person 
> who will vouch
> >> that you will pay back a loan, then it's likely that you 
> won't), and also 
> >> as
> >> a real incentive for the applicant to pay-back the loan 
> (not wanting 
> >> their
> >> friend or family to have to do so).
> >>
> >> I'd also suggest, to help those taking on the administration of the
> >> fund, that they do nothing if payments are missed.  we'll 
> make up losses
> >> through fund raising.  when you're freed of the effort of 
> collections, 
> >> then
> >> the administration should be a very minor task.
> >>
> >> so, what do people think?  will the leaders of these groups be
> >> willing to discuss it amongst themselves?
> >>
> >> Chip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Chip Orange
> >> Database Administrator
> >> Florida Public Service Commission
> >>
> >> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> (850) 413-6314
> >>
> >> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> >> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service 
> Commission.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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