I did not think I was "bashing" anyone. saying you're disappointed that someone isn't helping you is not "bashing"; chill Darla. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > -----Original Message----- > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:08 PM > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse > > Dear Chip, > > Why do you insist on bashing the Lighthouse; I guess Barbara > knows the > legalities of their getting involved with something like > this, and through > this past five years, especially, the Lighthouse has > supported us in every > way it can--publicity; assistance with writing letters and > knowing to whom > to address them; attending our consumer group meetings; > making Saturday tech > training possible and many more activities. > > Darla > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:32 PM > Subject: [tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse > > > > Thanks Victoria. > > > > Well, I hope nfb and TCB will talk about it; I'm sorry to see the > > Lighthouse > > isn't really interested in participating, and I disagree about the > > complexity of record keeping; that is, since we would not > be accountible > > to > > some funding source for every dollar, we would not have to > do a lot of > > accounting tasks that the charities to hand out money would > normally have > > to > > do. > > > > we'd really only have to track who made what payments, and > deposit the > > money. > > > > the other admin tasks would be a committee who would have > to evaluate > > applications. > > > > I think the no interest, and no financial qualifications > part of this idea > > are important ones. > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf > > Of Yvonne Britton > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:41 PM > > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [tabi] Re: I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse > > > > I think this would be a good idea Chip. I am saying this from my own > > experience with FAAST. I went to them and ask for a loan so I could > > purchase > > a new computer and they said that I should not want to get > myself in debt. > > I > > feel like if I want to borrow money for something I need to > better myself > > I > > should be the one who can decide if I can afford it or not. > . Things that > > we > > how are in the blind community need things that are too > expensive and if > > we can not get a loan to buy something I think is very > wrong. You should > > have the mind to decide if you can afford what ever you > might need. We > > have > > this organization and we deserve a chance.There some of us > who don't have > > jobs but we do have a income so therefore we should have a > chance to get > > what we need. I myself am tried of putting my money in a refurbish > > computer > > and there are other things I need. So people give us a chance. > > Victoria LOVES YOU AND SO DO I!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:57 PM > > Subject: [tabi] I have an idea for TCB, NFB, and the Lighthouse > > > > hi all, > > > > I had an idea I hoped the leaders of our 3 big non-profits here in > > town would take up; I think it's worth doing, and it would give us > > something > > else to focus on besides the bus system, which is more than a little > > divisive. > > > > What I've noticed is that when I'm speaking with many blind people, > > and I mention a possible technical solution to a problem > they're having, > > their response is often something like "that would be > great, but I can't > > afford it." > > > > understandable of course; we all know assistive technology is > > expensive, and we need a lot of it. > > > > so, what if for this area of Florida served by the Lighthouse, we > > began a fund to which we all contributed, which was then > used to provide > > no > > interest loans for the purchase of assistive technology? > > > > I was hoping one group would take on the administration of the fund, > > and all 3 groups would contribute to it, or fund raise for > it, as a joint > > project. I'll offer to start it off with $100 if someone > will take it on. > > > > I also hoped the fund could be run in such a way that a person's > > need for the technology, or their ability to pay, would not > be a factor in > > receiving the loan. I'd like this to be as free from > value judgments as > > possible. Perhaps just as the person what payment schedule > they thought > > that they could afford. > > > > a lot of microbanks in very poor areas of the world are quite > > successful, with nearly 100% payback rates, when being run > like this, by > > simply requiring a family member or friend to cosign the > loan application, > > guaranteeing payback if the primary applicant fails to do > so. this seems > > to > > serve as a screening tool (if you can't produce one person > who will vouch > > that you will pay back a loan, then it's likely that you > won't), and also > > as > > a real incentive for the applicant to pay-back the loan > (not wanting their > > friend or family to have to do so). > > > > I'd also suggest, to help those taking on the administration of the > > fund, that they do nothing if payments are missed. we'll > make up losses > > through fund raising. when you're freed of the effort of > collections, > > then > > the administration should be a very minor task. > > > > so, what do people think? will the leaders of these groups be > > willing to discuss it amongst themselves? > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Chip Orange > > Database Administrator > > Florida Public Service Commission > > > > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > (850) 413-6314 > > > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the TABI resource web page at > > http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI > > and please make suggestions for new material. > > > > > > > > if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the > freelists.org web > > interface, or by sending an email to the address > > tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in > the subject. > > > > Check out the TABI resource web page at > http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI > and please make suggestions for new material. > > > > if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the > freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the > address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject. > Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.