[sparkscoffee] Re: Fwd: [Radio Officers, &c] US Registry

  • From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "Sblumen123@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)
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  • Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 22:04:44 -0400

RR
Thanks for confirming my understanding of a tax dodge? But isn't that  a 
violation of the Jones act?
 
Stanley
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2014 9:56:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

NOL  bought APL in 1997. After the sale APL took over NOL's North American 
service  operations but no longer own any ships or trucks. Being a foreign 
corporation  I don't think NOL pays any taxes to the U.S..

Same as when Maesk bought  Sealand. 

November 1999: Mærsk buys container shipper _Sea-Land  Corporation_ 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Line_Limited)  with 70 vessels, container 
terminals and liner service from  the _CSX Corporation_ 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSX_Corporation) . The  new name of the shipping 
company is Mærsk  
Sealand.

-RR



-----Original  Message----- 
From: "Lee, NI7I" 
Sent: Sep 22,  2014 6:55 PM 
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [sparkscoffee]  Re: Fwd: [Radio Officers, &c] US Registry  

I'm probably missing something here, but what  does this have to do with 
APL except for your comment about NOL?  I'm  not sure what you mean
by tax dodge.  NOL mannages all the foreign  flagged APL ships.  

On 9/22/2014 5:05 PM, (Redacted sender _Sblumen123@aol.com_ 
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JS
Wrong again, all the Matson Ships that go from Hawaii to American  Ports 
are Jones Act American flagged
although I am not certain they are all American built? There are many  
Matson ships that hit American ports and then go foreign and they are  foreign 
flagged. I suspect the Singapore holding company (Neptune I  believe?) is a 
tax dodge?
 
Stanley
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2014 10:02:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_schalestock@juno.com_ (mailto:schalestock@xxxxxxxx)  writes:

David,
 
 
Clinton (in violation of the Jones Act) cut a deal with the ChiComs  to 
allow a Singapore holding company to buy
APL. The rest is history.
JS


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From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." _<n1ea@xxxxxxxx>_ (mailto:n1ea@xxxxxxxx) 
Date: Sun, 21  Sep 2014 11:38:00 -0400
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Fwd: [Radio Officers,  &c] US Registry
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Yesterday, when crossing The Solent by ferryboat from the  Isle of Wight to 
Southampton, our bow as crossed by a giant  containervessel.  
 
 
It  appeared to the be the APL Merlion of American President Lines.
To  my surprise the vessel was registered in Singapore!
I  always had the idea that American shipping companies operated their  
vessels under USA flag with American crews as this was required by  law.
Am  I wrong or was this something from the past?
Perhaps  one of our American friends can enlighten me on this.
I  sailed on containerships myself ( > 50.000 BRT) but they are dwarfed  by 
this real huge baby

This  is the above mentioned vessel (picture found on the internet)


​

73


Hans  PA3ERE

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