[sparkscoffee] Re: Fwd: [Radio Officers, &c] US Registry

From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "Sblumen123@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:47:34 -0400
Lee
I could be wrong but that is what I remember reading somewhere that all  
Matson ships are under the NOL flag?
 
Stanley
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2014 9:43:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:



Where do you get that Matson is owned by NOL?   Get back on your meds.  
Last I looked they are owned by Alexander  & Baldwin, Inc with their offices in
Honolulu, a US  corporation.

Lee


On 9/22/2014 6:37 PM, (Redacted sender _Sblumen123@aol.com_ 
(mailto:Sblumen123@xxxxxxx)  for DMARC)  wrote:


Pixiehat
Doesn't it seem strange that a fleet of Matson's Jones act ships should  be 
owned and operated by a foreign
NOL Singapore Company along with a fleet of foreign flagged  ships? Looks 
like one of those 47 corporations that changed their home  offices from the 
USA to a foreign country to dodge taxes? Do you  understand my point?
 
Comrade B 
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2014 8:55:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_pixiehat@charter.net_ (mailto:pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx)  writes:



I'm probably missing something here, but what  does this have to do with 
APL except for your comment about NOL?  I'm  not sure what you mean
by tax dodge.  NOL mannages all the foreign  flagged APL ships.  

On 9/22/2014 5:05 PM, (Redacted sender _Sblumen123@aol.com_ 
(mailto:Sblumen123@xxxxxxx)  for DMARC) wrote:


JS
Wrong again, all the Matson Ships that go from Hawaii to American  Ports 
are Jones Act American flagged
although I am not certain they are all American built? There are  many 
Matson ships that hit American ports and then go foreign and they  are foreign 
flagged. I suspect the Singapore holding company (Neptune I  believe?) is a 
tax dodge?
 
Stanley
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2014 10:02:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
_schalestock@juno.com_ (mailto:schalestock@xxxxxxxx)  writes:

David,
 
 
Clinton (in violation of the Jones Act) cut a deal with the  ChiComs to 
allow a Singapore holding company to buy
APL. The rest is history.
JS


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Date: Sun, 21 Sep  2014 11:38:00 -0400
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Fwd: [Radio Officers,  &c] US Registry
To: _"sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"_ (mailto:sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)  
_<sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>_ (mailto:sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) 


Yesterday, when crossing The Solent by ferryboat from the  Isle of Wight to 
Southampton, our bow as crossed by a giant  containervessel.  
 
 
It appeared  to the be the APL Merlion of American President Lines.
To my  surprise the vessel was registered in Singapore!
I always had  the idea that American shipping companies operated their 
vessels under  USA flag with American crews as this was required by law.
Am I wrong  or was this something from the past?
Perhaps one  of our American friends can enlighten me on this.
I sailed on  containerships myself ( > 50.000 BRT) but they are dwarfed by 
this  real huge baby

This is the  above mentioned vessel (picture found on the internet)




73


Hans  PA3ERE

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