[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Temperament

  • From: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx
  • To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:44:16 EDT

 
My experience at the Sieger show was the same as Suzanne's below. Total and  
complete confidence, and as far as the dogs are concerned, you are as nothing 
to  them. They tolerate and ignore. They are glorious.  Syd
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In a message dated 9/5/2007 6:58:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Personally I think we still have a long way to go.  Having just  returned 
from Germany and the Seiger Show it is difficult to describe the  differences 
from here to Europe.  
You have to understand the  difference in the National and the Seiger show to 
get an inkling of the  differences in the dogs.  There are THOUSANDS of 
people squeezed into a  stadium, all of them shopping at about the same time 
during 
breaks.   There are dogs everywhere, of all ages, milling in the crowd.  
People are  CROWDED in like cattle at times.  

The dogs are used to those kind  of crowds.  Step on one, or bump up against 
one, and they just look at  you and move.  Talk to them and they look at you.  
In their eyes you  do not see aggression.  You do not see fear.  You just see 
an  intelligent animal looking AT you; making eye contact.  It is almost  
disconcerting.  You almost feel as if you are in a zoo - and YOU are the  one 
behind the bars. I did not see one single 'golden retriever' temperament  
there.  
Even the puppies, while friendly, were aloof to some  extent.  You might get 
a tail wag but that was about it.  The adult  dogs are approachable - even 
when the owners are distracted.  Talk to  them and walk up and put hands on.  
They just stand there.  No  reaction AT ALL - no waggy tails, no aggression, no 
indication that you are  even there.  Approachable but making NO overtures 
[sound familiar - as in  the standard?!]  Even when the little kids want to 
faun 
over them they  just let it happen but don't really respond.  None of 
the ow
ners  appear to be 'guarding' their dogs as we see a lot at AKC shows.  
[Before  you explode, I'm just as guilty as anyone else because thats what I 
saw 
coming  up in GSDs - a programmed response.]  

If you truly want to see  what the temperament of this breed is supposed to 
be you have to see it in  Germany.  Lest you turn this into a German/American 
thing I would say  that PART of it could be the socialization and owner 
expectation.  Our  dogs, for the most part, do not receive that type of 
socialization 
because  they have restricted public access.  Additionally, these dogs are  
constantly exposed to people and distractions during training.  However,  it 
can't all be socialization.

My personal opinion is this .........  you cannot JUDGE a thing if you have 
no point of comparison.  Unless you  have been exposed to both European and 
American lines, you have no point of  comparison other than other AKC breeds.  
We 
have GREAT temperaments  compared to other AKC breeds...............







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