Laura, It was a LOT of years ago....LOL! We were BRAND new to showing, but thought we had a good dog. My daughter was showing him. A GORGEOUS young man approached us at a show admiring Spunky......he asked us if he could have a chance to show him. We agreed...and the race was one! Matthew Smith put 5 points on him that next spring..........and in 15 days in October, Spunky brought home 10 points and 2 majors! IF you have a GOOD dog...that is why bother! BTW........Spunky was from our 2nd litter! Mo That is not my point.? My point is what people think is based on their experiences with people in our breed.? Because we have a large split between German dogs, American show dogs and pets, most folks who get GSD's don't feel they even have a chance to show, so why bother.? That and they get no direction or support of the GSD fancier's.? Most of us started out with pets.? Some of us are stubborn and kept going.? But, I would be willing to bet that 99% of the folks that got dogs they thought they could show, gave up after the first show.? How is that a good thing? ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================