Luanne, I have been pondering how to answer Kathy's post and you said it right.? I show in lots of AB shows.? I have friends in many breeds.? They all love the GSD but most won't touch them.? Why?? So many reasons.? They want to show their own dogs.? They don't have an "IN" with the GSD people.? They feel they are looked down upon for having a different breed.? They have been shut down by GSD people when they wanted to know more about the breed and showing.? And, I am talking about people already in the show world that know better than to bother someone when their dog is in the ring. I have had many show people tell me about the GSD they grew up with but would never show one because of the politics.? I have had people tell me how we have the highest percentage of breeder judges at AB show than any other breed.? The reasons?go on and on.? And, that doesn't even start to examine the newbie and mentoring issues.? Perception or reality?? Hmmm.? And, what have we done to change it??? Laura Thomas? -----Original Message----- From: Luanne Crinklaw <silvermoongsds@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 9:11 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Perception I have to say what that potential puppy buyer told Kathy was dead on. I know allot of people think that way and I hate to say so as I know it will bite me in the butt, but I kinda feel that way too. When I first got into the world of conformation my head was full of ideas of bringing home a champion that I showed, in fact a great aunt of mine told her friends some day my niece will be at Westminster LOl. After a while that dream went by the wayside and I had to start figuring handling and boarding fees on top of show fees. The game got interesting then when the handler I initially hired wasn't part of the "German Shepherd network" she primarily showed dobies and wanted to start showing shepherds so she took on my dog. Even though she managed to put points on him it was rough for her as the shepherd judges did not know her, and those judges that did were ones that also judged dobies. She knew she had a good dog and showed him very well but the recognition factor was not there. The point that I'm trying to make is the way things are, it is no wonder new people are not interested in showing shepherds it is very hard to get into the "club". I still find that when I get a chance to attend a show that many new faces are completely ignored by the people who should be mentoring. I try to answer as many questions as I can and if I don't have the answer I find out. I consider myself still a newbie and will for quite allot of time, and as one I have to say unless we the fancy take measures to change the perception on the conformation world it will be a lost sport in the very near future. Luanne --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================