When I started judging in the mid seventies, it was expected that a judge at a major specialty was to publish a critique in the review. Usually you critiqued first through fourth in your winners class which in those days was open. The critique was not to tell the public "how much you loved the winner, they asked for the win, I would take him/her home, etc. I could continue ad nauseum...... These critiques were why we placed each animal and why we did not place them higher. We mentioned the areas that needed improvement and if there were faults that entered into the placements, they were also mentioned. Because of the large entries, severely faulted dogs did not place so were not critiqued. The general public did not like their "dirty laundry" exposed and some judges made asses of themselves by their comments so it eventually died out. If you have a dog with a missing premolar two, do you want it advertised to the world that they have that fault? If you have a dog who is sloppy going away, do you want that advertised to the world? I think that explaining placements at ring side helps people to follow your judging. It lets them know what are your priorities and dislikes. I have a problem with written critiques that do not truly give an educational critique. So I am for ringside explanations as to your placings in each class and against written critiques as they are done presently. D.D. (Old School) ----- Original Message ----- From: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> To: <cccaudiology@xxxxxxxxx>; <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <BARBMARKH@xxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Oral Critiique at the Show - some thoughts > > > In a message dated 7/10/2006 1:08:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > cccaudiology@xxxxxxxxx writes: > Actually, I love the idea of an oral critique. As a gaited horse show judge, > I haven't any problem walking up to the microphone and giving reasons for > placing a class. When I take over the responsibilities of the IJA Director of > Horse Show Judges, one of my main implementations is going to require all IJA > Judges to give at least 2 oral critiques at the show.................Mike > > > > > > I would love to see the specialty clubs making it part of their judges > contracts that a critique be given, in writing for sure, and preferably both a > written one and an oral one. > Of course, if this doesn't get anyone in trouble. But I believe the Parent > Club has some influence into how the specialty shows are handled. > > This could be a great tool to educate the fancy. Think about it as > Continuing Education. <G> > > Ileana > Chance favors the prepared mind > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================