From this newbies point of view, i would LOVE to hear critiques! I could really learn ALOT more about our breed SO MUCH MORE QUICKLY than I am. ( and i have great mentors )There is just so much to learn and so much to be able to learn to "SEE" for my self in movement! I'd also learn what to look for and what is desirable and what isn't for that judge. Evan did tell me, flat out, my dog wan't a conformation dog. And I appreciate his honesty. No hard feelings. Life goes on. He wasn't the first one to tell me either. At that time my hope outweighed reality, which goes back to an entirely different thread. Grace Eaton Pam Brink <pamb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Cappy and Gloria gave oral critiques this last weekend with each class but I was sitting too far away to catch most of it. What I did hear was reasonable and made sense in relation to what I had just seen going round, up and back, stacked and getting temperament checked. Time was taken with each dog so we could really see the dog. I didn't hear any one complaining (outside the ring of course) about these comments. Personally I think it is a good learning tool and an honest attempt by the judge to be rational and logical in their choices. Except with the veteran bitches when both admitted that they were granting the win based upon their heart of hearts. Both admitted, however, that longevity in our breed is an issue and so they wanted to reward owners/breeders who were able to produce and maintain a dog in good physical health for so long. No one complained because in our heart of hearts we all fell in love with the old old lady who was still able to perform beautifully. Brought tears to many eyes. Pam Brink pamb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://clubweb.interbaun.com/pamb/Index.htm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ Grace Eaton Sirius German Shepherds zgrace_grace@xxxxxxxxx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================