[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Oral Critiique at the Show - some thoughts
- From: BARBMARKH@xxxxxxx
- To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:49:13 EDT
The idea of oral critiques - given in the ring by the judge to ringside - has
been discussed many times over the years that I have been showing. I
remember times when a judge would give a little critique while giving out the
ribbons
- and every one would scramble to be close to hear what was said about their
dog - But I think the following thinks need to enter into this discussion -
A. The AKC really frowns on this practice - in most of the judging interviews
given by the AKC reps they even mention - very strongly - NOT to offer any
critiques in the ring. I realize that we have few specialties where one might
find an AKC rep - however - do we wish to encourage judges to deviate from AKC
rules?
B. A few years ago - at a National - one of the judges gave a critique at
the end of each class - to the audience - and very few people were happy about
it. Some people were very upset about what was said about their dog.
C. How should the judge decide what to say and what not to say about a given
dog - do they stick to comments about movement or type - or do they mention
missing teeth or off bites? Does the judge mention a tail he/she thought might
be dead or worse fixed - what does he say if the dog was say "falling into his
shoulder" - since Bill pointed out that most people at ringside are
"knowledgeable" - if the judge faults/comments on a dogs movement - front or
rear -
will this help to educate people - or do the educated people at ringside
already
think they know -- And the judge doesn't. When we enter under a judge (pay
money in other words) and the judge places a class -- we are getting the judges
opinion -- aren't we?
D. If a judge gives a critique -- and other judges are outside of the ring
-- will it influence the judging of another show? Or if one of those judges
already judged the dog being critiqued will that cause a problem . . . If a
novice shows a dog -- and the judge critiques his animal -- is it possible he
won't
ever want to put his beloved dog (or any other he owns) in the ring ever
again. How about a Jr. handler -- showing his dog -- does he really want to
hear
how his beloved dog compares to the others - I've seen some leave the ring in
tears (some come back -- some don't).
I could go on - but let me add just one more thing - while attending a
circuit a few years ago - the judges and exhibitors had one of those delightful
after Saturday show dinners where the judges are asked to give a critique of
the
dogs they put up - the distinguished Mr. Evan Ginsburg was going to judge on
Sunday and since we wouldn't be getting together after the Sunday show - he
gave his critique on Saturday night - it was wonderful - and just as pertinent
as
the one given by the judge that did the Saturday show - I think I learned a
very valuable lesson about critiques that weekend.
Barb Hefner
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