What you describe - a long period of labor and the bitch tiring out - does make it a medical issue. That was not how the question was asked. "how many of you schedule a c-section for your bitches when it is not required, just to save the bitch the misery of whelping? I believe she was quite specific. Ruth ________________________________ From: Bonnie Dinsmore <vonadlerhof@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 7:19:13 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How many of you... Knowing Jodi as I do, I know she would not schedule a c-section strictly for convenience...I have been there with her for all night deliveries. She has never had a c-section on a bitch unless medically necessary. Sometimes asking the list a question can get you slammed :-) I just had a 25 hour delivery with a bitch, and yes, I did get nervous and start to feel I was wearing my girl out. This is a bad feeling to have at 3:00 a.m. Sometimes, when the bitch is getting quite large, we wonder if we should save the bitch from tremendous pain & exhaustion, and possibly save the lives of some of the puppies. Not a stupid question to ask when you are worried about your bitch. It is sometimes hard to word certain questions correctly when emailing....it's much easier to talk to a breeder friend and voice your fears and concerns. That's exactly what Jodi is trying to do here. Lets help one another on here....this question did not come from a backyard or inexperienced breeder, but from a breeder who would do anything for her dogs, and I have seen her go out of her way for the comfort and care of her dogs. 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