If the judge had 5 - 10 minutes to evaluate each dog, he or she could probably make an accurate evaluation of each animal no matter how well or poorly it was shown. As it is, your dog may only be looked at for 90 seconds total - if he is pacing during the 10 seconds the judge sees him gait and standing cow-hocked for the few seconds the judge glances down the line of stacked dogs, that can be enough to rule you out even if your dog looks fabulous the rest of the time. A top handler doesn't let that happen. A really competent owner-handler might never let that happen either, but if you mess up, you can waste quite a few entry fees on classes you might have won. Janice In a message dated 1/1/2005 11:49:07 AM Mountain Standard Time, gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx writes: ----- Original Message ----- "Because a top handler can present the dog to show his virtues and minimize his faults." I am NOT trying to be argumentative, but I don't get this part! Maybe stack to hide a cowhock or less than ideal shoulder, maybe hold the lead to optimize way of going, but once that dog is stood and shown on a loose lead, stopped to stand naturally, and gone over by hand individually, doesn't that all come out in the wash for a knowledgeable judge? Does for me... Now, at this time in my life with my health, a good handler is a valuable asset because they can run better than me. Until I understand dog showing, the rules, social skills in the ring, etc. of course the handler is invaluable, as well as if I do not want to show my own dog, BUT, the dog's REAL conformation and way of going does not change because of who is on the end of the lead... Rachel & the Ark ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================