Well not really. The All Breed Shows must run on a set schedule. You are to enter your ring at a certain time and leave at at certain time. If you take to much time you screw up the whole schedule. There are some judges like me who just do not enjoy All Breed Shows and do not participate in those shows. Since you are not holding up any other breed, you can take your time and make sure that all entries feel that they have gotten a good look at a Specialty Show. - John ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel Anderson<mailto:gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx> To: John DeHope<mailto:HyHope@xxxxxxx> ; Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx<mailto:Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx> ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Honest Judges That is NUTS. ;-) No wonder you guys prefer a specialty show. ----- Original Message ----- From: John DeHope To: gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx> ; Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx<mailto:Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx> ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Honest Judges Rachel, - AKC says 20 dogs per hour is expected for a new judge, 25 for an experience judge. That means 3 minutes per dog for the new judge and 2 minutes and 40 seconds for the experience judge. We are of course only talking about All Breed Shows. - John ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel Anderson To: Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx<mailto:Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx> ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Honest Judges Then, the judge needs to take the time to look gaiting, loose lead, free stand, stacked...plus his hands on should tell him lay of shoulder, back, etc. Why only 90 seconds of "handled" handling? So, if you've got that cow hock straightened when the judge looks at you, you're ok? I really don't get it. But thanks to all of you who are trying to get it through my thick skull! Rach ----- Original Message ----- From: Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx<mailto:Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx> To: gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx> ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Honest Judges If the judge had 5 - 10 minutes to evaluate each dog, he or she could probably make an accurate evaluation of each animal no matter how well or poorly it was shown. As it is, your dog may only be looked at for 90 seconds total - if he is pacing during the 10 seconds the judge sees him gait and standing cow-hocked for the few seconds the judge glances down the line of stacked dogs, that can be enough to rule you out even if your dog looks fabulous the rest of the time. A top handler doesn't let that happen. A really competent owner-handler might never let that happen either, but if you mess up, you can waste quite a few entry fees on classes you might have won. 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