In a message dated 5/15/05 9:37:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, DaniaKarloff@xxxxxxx writes: I said that discrete, well executed double handling may be a boost to a bored dog. I have been watching this thread with interest. Although I seldom post, I did want to give my side of double handling. When I am in the ring, I seldom want double handling on my dogs, but the owner/breeder, (read Tedi) does. She wants the ears up, the dog alert, and expressive. I usually want to slow down the dog, and the ears are my last concern. When I am judging, I often take time for the double handlers to get in the right position, let them do what they want, and then try to judge the dog when no one is calling him. I seldom notice the ears, so long as they are not hanging down, or cropped. The point is that the double handlers want to be part of the win, (and never to blame for the loss). This show stuff includes everyone, and often the double handler gets to feel involved, when not always needed. That is a good thing, from my view point. Often the double handlers do more harm than good, from the stand point of the judge, but it is still a good thing, if it makes the show more fun. You can always ask for one pass without any doubling, and I often do. Keep on doing whatever makes it fun for you, but try not to involve the other rings. That is just bad manners, and we German shepherd people lead the way in good sportsmanship and hospitality within the breed. We need to keep our reputation intact. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================