[rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list]
- From: "Marvin" <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:24:02 +0800
Mark thanks for the post. I don't want to get into another argument about
which camera is the best or my favourite.
I have reasons for my choice I suspect you have reasons for your choice.
That choice is pretty subjective and I understand that one cannot formulate
a criteria by which to measure the best camera to everyone's satisfaction.
If the mark is beyond criticism in your opinion-so be it.
Perhaps we should have a new rule that is don't ever criticize a Rollei on
this list (which for the record I didn't anyway).All I did in fleeting
conversation was mention that a certain camera is better under certain
conditions.
Further Mark I did not set the Rollei up against the Mamyia 6, which is just
another tedious example of a straw man argument which has been propounded.
You ask which other design has basically remained unchanged, well how about
the Leica M and its still being improved with digital versions.
All in all Mark this is too much of a nonsense conversation to pursue
online. We can take it off line, I certainly will not be discussing anymore
of this nonsense.
Thanks,
Marvin.
-----Original Message-----
From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: 04 March 2010 04:38
To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list]
> Hello Robert, You seem to have granted my point:). That is, since Rollei's
> are not perfect, valid criticism of the mark is in order.
> If one thinks that criticism of Rollei is out of bounds, then start the
> Church of the Rollei.
Its not perfect but its an example of an industrial design which was so
complete and well thought (the word perfect actually is often used) out in
its onset 80 years ago in 1929 that is still plainly recognizable and was
just tweaked over the 8 decades.
Look at the picture of the first Rolleiflex made in 1929
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolleiflex
Another example of such an un interrupted design would be what?
Setting it up against a Mamiya 6 is just comical as it was made for about 3
years in the 90s and just phased out do to wide disinterest and they just
made Mamiya 7's instead. Admittedly a mistake. The Mamiya 6 is a blip in the
history of photography and one which is easy to miss. Even in the history of
Mamiya itself. Here's an interesting context:
http://herron.50megs.com/history.htm
The body of work the Rolleiflex has produced by the greatest photographers
of all time is a historic phenomenon. I'm sure someone at some time took a
notable shot with a Mamiya 6 I just cant close my eyes and picture it.
There are 2 or 3 internet self professed experts, bloggers, who just love
the Mamiya 6 and would seem to be getting a cult going on the camera. All 20
of them that were made making for the buying of them one of the worst deals
in photography. The buying of a Rolleiflex one of the best. If not THE
best.
The response I don't get from a Rolleiflex shot at waist level from people
doest not compare to the recoiling response I get from shooting my hold at
my face rangefinder cameras at them. Its still a gun. People don't like
stuff pointed at them.
I don't feel the two cameras belong in the same paragraph. Or on the same
list.
[Rabs]
Mark William Rabiner
---
Rollei List
- Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe'
in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org
- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with
'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org
- Online, searchable archives are available at
//www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list
---
Rollei List
- Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe'
in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org
- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with
'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org
- Online, searchable archives are available at
//www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list
Other related posts:
