I have a standard with a Tessar, and this one is Carl Zeiss Jena. The automat's lens is just Carl Zeiss. The Automat looks like it had been re-lensed -- the coated Tessar = uncoated viewing lens suggests... and note, my slightly newer Automat with Opton Tessar has a coated viewing lens. Also the mystery Tessar is scratch-free-- and the camera body is a beater... Did CZ start a new lens # series? My std's Tessar is # CZJ 1818256 -- uncoated... The 1930s f3.5s are narrower and uncoated. This is dimensionally similar to the lens in my Cord Vb. Again it is a CZ, not a CZJ or ZO tessar. PJ Nebergall On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:56:11 -0800 "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter J Nebergall" <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:40 AM > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list] > > > > > > > > I just bought another old automat, with a coated tessar, > > but the camera > > is wierd. It is a Carl Zeiss f3.5 tessar, so I suspect > > the lens is way > > too new? Lens# 1192124. Shutter is Compur-Rapid, rather > > than > > synchro-compur. Not a jena or an Opton... > > > > 1101153 body #. > > > > Viewing lens is uncoated. Has no info. Camera has added > > synch, dead > > center bottom, and something that looks like a kalart > > synch. Camera > > shows sign of having been repainted. > > > > Made from pieces? Re-lensed later? What have I got here? > > > > Peter Nebergall > > > The lens dates from about 1930. If I interpret Prochnow > right the first Rollei with an f/3.5 Tessar was the "old" > Standard, which appeared in November, 1934. This has a > Compur-Rapid shutter. Its possible a lens four years old > might have been used. The earlier model Standards had either > f/4.5 or f/3.8 lenses and a different type of Compur. > The first Automat appeared in August, 1937. These have > Compur-Rapid shutters. > The serial numbers of the last Automat before WW-2 run > from 805,000 to 1,099,999. The last of these camras was made > in September 1949. The pre-war cameas had Zeiss Tessars, > post war cameras also may have Opton Tessars or Xenars. > The serial number applies to a post-war Automat model > made from October, 1949 to May, 1951. According to Prochnow, > these were supplied with Jena Tessars, Opton Tessars, and > Xenars. The serial number series begins at 1,100,000 > Early Automats did not have flash synch. Many were > modified to take an electromagnetic solenoid type > synchronizer. These generally were mounted on the front > panel with thumb screws so as to be removable and operated > the shutter by means of the cable release socket. A similar > mounting arrangement was used on both old and new Standard > models but with a modification that added a short release > lever to the shutter in addition to the normal lever. Most > of these solenoids were made by Heiland. > AFAIK, Kalart never made a solenoid type synchonizer. > They offered a mechanical delay synchronizer. These were in > the form of a cable release with the delay unit near the > operating end. they were designed to plug into the Kalart > flashgun. They certainly could have been used on Rolleiflex > or Rolleicord cameras but would not require any modification > of the camera. > Could you post pictures of the camera, perhaps to the > Rollei Gallery? > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list