Noone has suggested that Rolleis are perfect. No camera, unfortunately, is perfect. That's why I, and I think everyone on the list, has numerous different cameras for different purposes.
On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Marvin wrote:
Robert I too share admiration for Rolleis, which is why I'm on the list. To pretend they are perfect machines is not realistic in my book. My favourite all time camera remains my Mamiya 6. Though the Rollei Plannar leaves it fordust. Marvin. -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Meier Sent: 03 March 2010 00:00 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list] Marvin, A lot of us do share Carlos' admiration for Rolleis. I believe that admiration is the reason for this list. Robert On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Marvin wrote:You should start the first Church of the Rolleiflex. It seems like you adore these items which are beyond criticism. I don't share your enthusiasm or fanaticism in this regard. Good luck. Marvin Wallace. -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CarlosMFreaza Sent: 02 March 2010 17:53 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list] The language issue always appears for this kind of discussions, my point is I perceive you tend to underestimate the Rollei cameras (TLRand 35) as photographic tools from different point of views in severalof your posts, from the focusing system to the square format and this time discussing on a photographer you did not recall well, following your own explanation. My English is bad in general and even worse when I write quickly, I always expect a harsh comment about it, BTW a harsh comment on my English does not mean you are closer to the truth. Carlos 2010/3/1 <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:I have admired his photographs for a long time though it is a long timesince I have seen his work over 10 years to be exact.I remember the content of his work more that the camera he used, thesqaure format.If you think that I didn't know of him as a photographer before you postedon him, then that is a charge too childish to contend with.I can prove with much effort, on my part, that Derbyshire University'sphotographic library has several publications by this photographer, and that I have taken out and read at least one of hiis books.I do understand that English is not your first language, and thus dontwant to be too harsh. Your second language skills are better than mine by the way so dont be offended by that.Marvin.From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 2010/03/02 Tue AM 10:30:34 HKT To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list] You wrote this morning: "I have admired Sidibe photographs for some. I was unaware that he used a Rollei since the framing is most often not square. His work is a living documentary of Senegal!" Since Sidib? is from Mali and took a lot of photographs keeping the square or almost square format, I have the right to think you did not know about Siridib? very much before my first post on the topic. You can convert a rectangle into square, but it is a lot easier to use a square to compose a rectangle than a rectangle to compose a square.- Carlos 2010/3/1 <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:I'm still not tracking with you.(?). Don't forget the photography can also crop the rectangle to a suqare,so these compositional points you mention are not rules set in stone.When a said his work is documentary, I dont mean that it is documentaryper say, I mean that his work is an interesting historical record of Mali, and as such is very interesting.Marvin. --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org- Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org- Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list
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