[rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list]
- From: chatanooga@xxxxxxxxx
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- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:57:54 +0000
Hi Marvin
I have both the Mamiya 6 and a Rollei (FX) as well. I find the former a
little clunky looking but unbelievably ergonomic/ easy to handle. Allied
with the 'silent' shutter and fast rangefinder focusing it's quite
something. Re lense performance wrt the Rollei, eyeballing 4000dpi scans I
see really no difference at the image centre. However the Mamiya has
noticeable vignetting especially apparent under velvia skies, something I've
never noticed with the Rollei. I also find the averaging meter not as useful
as the Rollei's heavily centre-weighted scheme.
But do tell us where 'the Plannar leaves it for dust'!
Chat
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Marvin <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Robert I too share admiration for Rolleis, which is why I'm on the list. To
> pretend they are perfect machines is not realistic in my book. My favourite
> all time camera remains my Mamiya 6. Though the Rollei Plannar leaves it
> for
> dust.
> Marvin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Meier
> Sent: 03 March 2010 00:00
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list]
>
> Marvin, A lot of us do share Carlos' admiration for Rolleis. I
> believe that admiration is the reason for this list. Robert
>
> On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Marvin wrote:
>
> > You should start the first Church of the Rolleiflex. It seems like
> > you adore
> > these items which are beyond criticism. I don't share your
> > enthusiasm or
> > fanaticism in this regard. Good luck.
> > Marvin Wallace.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CarlosMFreaza
> > Sent: 02 March 2010 17:53
> > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list]
> >
> > The language issue always appears for this kind of discussions, my
> > point is I perceive you tend to underestimate the Rollei cameras (TLR
> > and 35) as photographic tools from different point of views in several
> > of your posts, from the focusing system to the square format and this
> > time discussing on a photographer you did not recall well, following
> > your own explanation.
> > My English is bad in general and even worse when I write quickly, I
> > always expect a harsh comment about it, BTW a harsh comment on my
> > English does not mean you are closer to the truth.
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/3/1 <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> I have admired his photographs for a long time though it is a long
> >> time
> > since I have seen his work over 10 years to be exact.
> >>
> >> I remember the content of his work more that the camera he used, the
> > sqaure format.
> >>
> >> If you think that I didn't know of him as a photographer before
> >> you posted
> > on him, then that is a charge too childish to contend with.
> >>
> >> I can prove with much effort, on my part, that Derbyshire
> >> University's
> > photographic library has several publications by this photographer,
> > and that
> > I have taken out and read at least one of hiis books.
> >>
> >> I do understand that English is not your first language, and thus
> >> dont
> > want to be too harsh. Your second language skills are better than
> > mine by
> > the way so dont be offended by that.
> >>
> >> Marvin.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Date: 2010/03/02 Tue AM 10:30:34 HKT
> >>> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rollei_list]
> >>>
> >>> You wrote this morning:
> >>> "I have admired Sidibe photographs for some. I was unaware that he
> >>> used a Rollei since the framing is most often not square. His
> >>> work is
> >>> a living documentary of Senegal!"
> >>>
> >>> Since Sidib? is from Mali and took a lot of photographs keeping the
> >>> square or almost square format, I have the right to think you did
> >>> not
> >>> know about Siridib? very much before my first post on the topic.
> >>> You can convert a rectangle into square, but it is a lot easier
> >>> to use
> >>> a square to compose a rectangle than a rectangle to compose a
> >>> square.-
> >>>
> >>> Carlos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2010/3/1 <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> I'm still not tracking with you.(?).
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't forget the photography can also crop the rectangle to a
> >>>> suqare,
> > so these compositional points you mention are not rules set in stone.
> >>>>
> >>>> When a said his work is documentary, I dont mean that it is
> >>>> documentary
> > per say, I mean that his work is an interesting historical record
> > of Mali,
> > and as such is very interesting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Marvin.
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