Oh! Carlos, thank you kind sir. Marvin It's not true again, I use several no Rollei cameras because as any industrial product, they have their limits and specific use of course, but the same way you like to emphasize features you consider negatives, I like to emphasizes their virtues; it looks like you don't accept someone contradicting your opinions, good luck to you too. Carlos --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list