[python] Re: Pythonjetrike

  • From: Henry Thomas <whpthomas@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:45:56 +1000

Great video Vi,

That's pretty much how I experienced it. Front wheel loses traction first because it bares a greater proportion of the weight in the turn. The only difference - I was using cleats, so my inside leg got sucked under as I fell - leading to gravel rash.

-h

Henry Thomas

On 05/10/2011, at 4:02 PM, Vi Vuong wrote:

Here are my observation of bicycle wheel slippage and fall modes, on gravel and sand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktfReCRgUOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWmgzolU55Q

It seems that FWD makes slippage worse / harder to recover.
Would Tadpole 2WD help? Maybe with tilting locked?

Vi

From: Patrick van Gompel <patrick_van_gompel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:00 AM
Subject: [python] Re: Pythonjetrike

I doubt whether a tilting mechanism is a disadvantage if you compare it with a 2 wheeled Python. I had the front wheel slip on both the Python and the tilting trike. Not sure which one would slip and fall first, but when I did fall both events went differently. The Python slid away from me, I put one feet on the ground but the bike fell. It hit the pedal and handle bar, then the seat. I myself went foot first, then onto my bottom. I wasn't hurt (only a few scratches) and the good thing was that the bike seems to go away from the rider (like with my recumbent), which is much safer than a conventional bicycle (entanglement). On the trike; the front wheel slipped and I put one foot on the ground so the bike didn't fell over. Since this was a test, I knew it was comming and was one step ahead. Otherwise, I think you are more likely to hit bike parts (tires) when you fall than with a Python.

My experience with cycling through the snow is like this: fresh or wet snow is ok for most bikes, although not really for a recumbent. Snow that is there for a few days and has been driven over makes things quite a bit harder. A mountainbike with soft open tires might still do. When things get really nasty I always prefer the classic citybike, since there is less pressure on the frontwheel compared to a mountainbike and it is easier to put a feet on the ground to stay in control and slip through corners ;-)

Patrick


> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 16:23:11 +0200
> From: dirk.bonne@xxxxxxx
> To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [python] Re: Pythonjetrike
>
> Thanks Patrick and George
>
> @George: I meant the question more like: is the tilting mechanism a
> disadvantage (compared to a 2 wheeled python) instead of just "no use" > when the road is slippery. Sorry for having asked my question so unclear.
>
> Thanks Patrick. If the winter is as hard as has been in the last 2 years > then I should build a non-tilting trike solution for my pythoon. I think > I could easily make a "2 wheel module" that I put under the box of the
> pythoon making the wheel base short, and thus allow for a relative
> narrow trike.
>
> Dirk
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