[python] Re: Pythonjetrike

  • From: Vi Vuong <vi_vuong@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:02:01 -0700 (PDT)

Here are my observation of bicycle wheel slippage and fall modes, on gravel and 
sand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktfReCRgUOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWmgzolU55Q

It seems that FWD makes slippage worse / harder to recover.
Would Tadpole 2WD help? Maybe with tilting locked?

Vi



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>From: Patrick van Gompel <patrick_van_gompel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:00 AM
>Subject: [python] Re: Pythonjetrike
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>I doubt whether a tilting mechanism is a disadvantage if you compare it with a 
>2 wheeled Python. I had the front wheel slip on both the Python and the 
>tilting trike. Not sure which one would slip and fall first, but when I did 
>fall both events went differently. The Python slid away from me, I put one 
>feet on the ground but the bike fell. It hit the pedal and handle bar, then 
>the seat. I myself went foot first, then onto my bottom. I wasn't hurt (only a 
>few scratches) and the good thing was that the bike seems to go away from the 
>rider (like with my recumbent), which is much safer than a conventional 
>bicycle (entanglement). On the trike; the front wheel slipped and I put one 
>foot on the ground so the bike didn't fell over. Since this was a test, I knew 
>it was comming and was one step ahead. Otherwise, I think you are more likely 
>to hit bike parts (tires) when you fall than with a Python.
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>My experience with cycling through the snow is like this: fresh or wet snow is 
>ok for most bikes, although not really for a recumbent. Snow that is there for 
>a few days and has been driven over makes things quite a bit harder. A 
>mountainbike with soft open tires might still do. When things get really nasty 
>I always prefer the classic citybike, since there is less pressure on the 
>frontwheel compared to a mountainbike and it is easier to put a feet on the 
>ground to stay in control and slip through corners ;-)
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>Patrick
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>> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 16:23:11 +0200
>> From: dirk.bonne@xxxxxxx
>> To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [python] Re: Pythonjetrike
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>> Thanks Patrick and George
>> 
>> @George: I meant the question more like: is the tilting mechanism a
>> disadvantage (compared to a 2 wheeled python) instead of just "no use"
>> when the road is slippery. Sorry for having asked my question so unclear.
>> 
>> Thanks Patrick. If the winter is as hard as has been in the last 2 years
>> then I should build a non-tilting trike solution for my pythoon. I think
>> I could easily make a "2 wheel module" that I put under the box of the
>> pythoon making the wheel base short, and thus allow for a relative
>> narrow trike.
>> 
>> Dirk
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