Here are my observation of bicycle wheel slippage and fall modes, on gravel and sand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktfReCRgUOM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWmgzolU55Q It seems that FWD makes slippage worse / harder to recover. Would Tadpole 2WD help? Maybe with tilting locked? Vi >________________________________ >From: Patrick van Gompel <patrick_van_gompel@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:00 AM >Subject: [python] Re: Pythonjetrike > > > >I doubt whether a tilting mechanism is a disadvantage if you compare it with a >2 wheeled Python. I had the front wheel slip on both the Python and the >tilting trike. Not sure which one would slip and fall first, but when I did >fall both events went differently. The Python slid away from me, I put one >feet on the ground but the bike fell. It hit the pedal and handle bar, then >the seat. I myself went foot first, then onto my bottom. I wasn't hurt (only a >few scratches) and the good thing was that the bike seems to go away from the >rider (like with my recumbent), which is much safer than a conventional >bicycle (entanglement). On the trike; the front wheel slipped and I put one >foot on the ground so the bike didn't fell over. Since this was a test, I knew >it was comming and was one step ahead. Otherwise, I think you are more likely >to hit bike parts (tires) when you fall than with a Python. > >My experience with cycling through the snow is like this: fresh or wet snow is >ok for most bikes, although not really for a recumbent. Snow that is there for >a few days and has been driven over makes things quite a bit harder. A >mountainbike with soft open tires might still do. When things get really nasty >I always prefer the classic citybike, since there is less pressure on the >frontwheel compared to a mountainbike and it is easier to put a feet on the >ground to stay in control and slip through corners ;-) > >Patrick > > > >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 16:23:11 +0200 >> From: dirk.bonne@xxxxxxx >> To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [python] Re: Pythonjetrike >> >> Thanks Patrick and George >> >> @George: I meant the question more like: is the tilting mechanism a >> disadvantage (compared to a 2 wheeled python) instead of just "no use" >> when the road is slippery. Sorry for having asked my question so unclear. >> >> Thanks Patrick. If the winter is as hard as has been in the last 2 years >> then I should build a non-tilting trike solution for my pythoon. I think >> I could easily make a "2 wheel module" that I put under the box of the >> pythoon making the wheel base short, and thus allow for a relative >> narrow trike. >> >> Dirk >> >> ============================================================ >> >> This is the Python Mailinglist >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/python >> >> Listmaster: Jurgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx >> >> To unsubscribe send an empty mail to >> python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. >> >> ============================================================ >> > > >