[pure-silver] Re: (slightly) OT MF equipment dilemma

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:53:49 -0700

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From: "Randy Stewart" <randal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: (slightly) OT MF equipment 
dilemma


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> From: "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: (slightly) OT MF equipment 
> dilemma
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>> From: "Stefan Kahlert" <s.kahlert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: (slightly) OT MF equipment 
>> dilemma
>> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:06:44 +0200
>>
>> > The Autocord is an exception where the film travels 
>> > from the upper
>> > chamber to the lower chamber which means that only the 
>> > film already
>> > exposed gets bend.
>>
>> That's better, though I'm not sure how much does that 
>> help to the
>> flatness.
>
> It makes a considerable difference, if you leave a partly 
> shot roll of film
> in the camera for any length of time.
>
>> By the way, was any of the Autocord made with 6-element
>> optics? (AFAIK Yashica and Minolta TLRs are all triplets 
>> or Tessar's.)
>
> No, early Yashica TLRs, pre-Yashica 12, were mostly 
> triplets, and later
> models were 4 element Tessar types, although testing 
> indicated that they
> were generally inferior to true Tessars or the similar 
> Rokkor [Teeser type]
> in the Autocord.  All Minolta Autocords use a very nice 4 
> element design,
> but no 6 element. A few of the low volume Japanese TLRs 
> used 5 element
> designs which are said to be very good. [Koniflex; 
> Airesflex with the Nikon
> contributed Nikkor lens set.]
>
>
   I wonder what you mean by "true" Tessar. If one having 
the right to bear the name that makes it either Zeiss or 
Bausch and Lomb, who had a license (sort of) for the name. 
However, Tessar is a generally recognized name for a generic 
lens type although there is quite a bit of variation among 
lenses dubbed Tessar types. The conventional Tessar has four 
elements with two cemented together at the rear. In Paul 
Rudolph's original Tessar the front cell had two airspaced 
elements of "old" glass, the rear two cemented elements of 
new or "Jena" glass. The cemented surface of the rear group 
serves to correct zonal spherical, oblique spherical, and 
reduce astigmatism. In the Tessar the front group has low, 
negative power, the rear group having most of the power and 
most of the corrections. Tessars vary all over the place in 
performance. The generic type is capable of excellent 
performance if not made too fast but that cability is not 
always achieved; it depends on the skill of the designer and 
the lens maker. Tessars on the oustanding side are the Kodak 
Commercial Ektar, a series of f/6.3 lenses made during the 
mid 1940's to 1960's partly to promote the use of color 
film. These lenses are extremely sharp and nearly 
apochromatic. Other lenses of this type do not necessarily 
come up to this standard. The Tessar and Xenar lenses on 
Rolleiflexes appear to be close to the limit of performance. 
At f/2.8, the Tessar can be a satisfactory, but never 
outstanding design. One limitation of the Tessar is oblique 
spherical aberration. It can be reduced to acceptable levels 
but is one of the factors limiting the speed and coverage 
angle of the lens and other generic types are more 
inherently free of it.
   Some variations of the Tessar include: reversal of the 
order of power in the cemented rear component. This was done 
by Kodak in the Kodak Anastigmat Special, a front element 
focusing lens. According to George Aklin of Kodak, this 
arrangement has an advantage when high index glass is used. 
Another variation is the position of the stop. In the 
conventional Tessar the stop is in the rear air space. In 
the Leitz Elmar it is in the front air space. I don't know 
what advantage, if any, this had. It is also possible to 
have a reversed Tessar with the cemented component in the 
front. There have also been occasional designs with three 
cemented elements in the rear, the Ross Xpress is an 
example. Some variations evidently were for the sole purpose 
of getting around a patent.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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