Sounds like you are referring to one made by Arkay. I have one of these and break it out when i need to do large prints or a large volume. It will take prints up to 16x10. It consists of a tub that looks like it probably takes about 8 gallons to fill and a rotating drum that sits on bearings and is powered by the force of the inlet water jetting on a water wheel. It works very well but it requires a lot of water. I also have the rocking Patterson print washer that has been much maligned here. I intend to do the beet juice test on t soon! So far I have had no complaints with it. Speedy From: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: print washer Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:41:49 +0200 I've seen a stainless steel washer in operation, which worked like a slowly rotating washing machine. Is that the one describing? Regards Ralph W. Lambrechthttp://www.darkroomagic.comhttp://www.waybeyondmonochrome.com This electronic message contains information that is confidential, legally privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. This information is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, printing or any other use of, or any action in reliance on, the contents of this electronic message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message immediately.P don't print this e-mail unless you really have to On May 20, 2010, at 08:17, Richard Knoppow wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Badcock" <peter.badcock@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:50 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: print washer Thanks Jean-David, That's rather depressing to read. I'd love to see the test details/conditions if possible. Were they testing residual fixer levels in the paper to a level that is considered archival by today's standards/consensus ? In the mean time I'll see what I can do to make it shower over the top. rgds Peter On 20 May 2010 00:11, Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: When I got my Zone VI print washer, Fred Picker enclosed a test report of print washers by a test lab he hired. I assume Zone VI paid for the testing, so the Zone VI came out first -- about the same as the East Street print washer that was no longer available. The oscillating Patterson tested the worst. They found the oscillating feature was of no use and you got comparable results with it or without it. They made it work about as well as all the others if they built a gizmo that showered the water in the top all over the reservoir. But by the time I read that, I had no interest in making something like that and besides it was not big enough for 11x14 inch prints. It seems to me that either Calumet or another Chicago photographic equipment maker made a stainless steel rocking washer c.1950s. I am not sure how this unit worked, it may just have rocked back and forth to agitate the water but it was a running water washer. They were made in commercial sizes but probably more to wash large numbers of small prints than a few large ones. I have a couple of old catalogues and will try to find it. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1