[pure-silver] Re: Problem with 2 tray hypo (fixer).

  • From: Laurence Cuffe <cuffe@xxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:05:08 -0500

So much for my snap analysis! water is out as a factor, clearly.  Just as a 
snap check is there a significant difference in clearing time for a small piece 
of unexposed film swirled around in each of them? This might be  a crude way of 
checking to see how much life is left in the darker one.
All the best
Laurence cuffe
On Thursday, December 03, 2009, at 06:37PM, "Bogdan Karasek" 
<bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I always use distilled water for I and II.  Why does II change to an 
>amber colour and I doesn't?  The water came from the same 20 liter 
>container of distilled water so I think we can exclude water as a variable.
>
>Bogdan
>
>
>
>Laurence Cuffe wrote:
>> At a guess, there has been a change in the Iron content of you water and you 
>> are seeing some sort of a chelation complex appearing. This is very 
>> speculative, but the only common changed factor appears to be the water, 
>> hence my diagnosis.
>> All the best
>> Larry Cuffe
>> 
>> On Thursday, December 03, 2009, at 06:02PM, "Bogdan Karasek" 
>> <bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I need some advice/clarification regarding my fixer.  When printing 
>>> fiber paper, I use the two tray  method for my fixer and I mix it myself 
>>> using Sodium Thiosulfate in distilled water.  When tray I is exhausted, 
>>> I do the usual routine, move the hypo in tray II to tray I and mix a 
>>> fresh gallon of hypo for tray II.
>>>
>>> Recently, a phenomenon has happened for which I have no explanation. If 
>>> I am doing intensive work over several days, I leave the the chemicals, 
>>> Stop and Hypo (developer gets changed everyday) in their trays overnight 
>>> but each tray is covered with Saran Wrap to prevent oxidation.  Never 
>>> had a problem until last week.  Overnight, Hypo II changed colour to a 
>>> light amber (see photo) whereas hypo I did not.  I checked hypo II for 
>>> exhaustion using Edwal's Hypochek and everything was clear.  As a 
>>> precautionary measure, I mixed fresh hypo for tray II, covered it with 
>>> Saran Wrap at the end on the evening and next morning, tray II has the 
>>> amber colour whereas tray I is clear.  I checked tray II with the 
>>> Hypochek and again, no evidence of exhaustion.
>>>
>>> Since an image is worth a 1000 words, what you see in the photo are the 
>>> contents of tray I on the left, clear, and tray II on the right, amber 
>>> coloured.
>>>
>>> By the way, the developer is Dektol 1:2 and the stop is Kodak Indicator 
>>> Stop Bath.  Nothing has changed in my procedure, same trays for the past 
>>> number of years, always mix chemicals with distilled water.
>>>
>>> Anybody have an explanation?  This has never happened to me before.
>>>
>>> http://s873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/bkarasek/?action=view&current=Hypo12-01.jpg
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> bogdan
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