[pure-silver] Re: Holy Jesus Ilford bumped its prices
- From: "Eric Neilsen Photography" <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:38:21 -0500
Surely You are Joking about Agfa papers lasting forever. If there is one
paper that I had more fogging problems with over the last 10 years, it was
Agfa Multigrade papers, both RC and Fiber. At least one local store stop
stocking it due to high number of complaints.
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
214-827-8301
http://ericneilsenphotography.com
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> From: "Nick Zentena" <zentena@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:38 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Holy Jesus Ilford bumped its
> prices
>
>
> > On Tuesday 25 October 2005 16:26, Edward C. Zimmermann
> > wrote:
> >> There are loads of excellent paper developer formulas out
> >> there..
> >> Most of the packaged one these days tend to be either MQ
> >> or PQ formulas..
> >> I think the Ilford is a PQ probably not unlike the
> >> Champion Multispeed
> >> developer.. A box (2x5 litre jugs) should last some time
> >> and should be
> >> cheaper.. The Ilford stuff is anyway now from Champion
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Scratch is, however, also cheap... For that money one
> >> could get a pound of
> >> metol, 50g of Phenidone or Dimezone and some Hydroquinone
> >> or some Ascorbic
> >> acid and a few other cheap bits to make perhaps a years
> >> worth of
> >> developer.. and have a much better shelf-life (properly
> >> stored Metol, for
> >> instance, can keep for a millenia).......
> >
> >
> > So does anybody have any idea what is/was in Agfa
> > Multicontrast? Why it kept
> > forever?
> >
> > Nick
> >
> This seems to be a characteristic of all Agfa papers. I
> have no idea what stabilizers were used. I am currently
> using some Agfa Brovira that is probably more than 20 years
> old and has been stored at room temperature. No fog or
> apparent loss of contrast or speed. At least some
> ingredients of paper emulsion, like Cadmium compounds, have
> been removed because of environmental concerns. I think this
> is more a problem of using the stuff in manufacturing than
> the small amounts in the emulsion.
>
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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