[pure-silver] Re: Grain
- From: titrisol <titrisol@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:21:12 -0800 (PST)
Neopan 100SS came out a long time ago, I remember using it in
the early 90s
It was grainy yes, not as grainy as Fortepan 100 and had a nice
tonality.
I developed it in D76 clones and got decent results....
Now if I could only find those negatives.
--- Stefano Bramato <stebramato@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> At 16.18 09/01/2006, you wrote:
> >Bob Randall
>
> Hi Bob,
> i'm not against grain at all.
> In my works i want grain, i want it visible because it's the
> sign of
> a real work with a film and all of this concern: from the
> shoot to the print.
> I can add that there are many types of grain and it also
> depends of
> what kinda grain you can obtain with a specifical developer.
> Usually
> I use three kind of developers: developer called SB3 a PQ
> formula
> based only on my scratches, Xtol, and HC110. And often i
> modify know
> formulas to better suit my tastes. Ok let's start from this.
>
> My reply on Neopan SS 100 is quite clear i suppose. It has an
> ugly
> grain, like snowballs glued together. I tried first to develop
> with
> Xtol, the better around my darkroom, and it's not satisfacting
> for my
> tastes. In fact i wrote that for that kinda film is better,
> IMO, that
> old friend called Fp4+. Also Neopan SS has not so good tonal
> extension as Fp4+ for example, and the grain in Fp4+ is quite
> good.
> I don't know if there is some psychic perception of grain but
> if
> well developed fp4+ gave me stunning results expecially with
> PQ
> developer. Very sharp and looks like fresh, dynamic and more
> vibrant
> than Neopan SS. With all my little experience I had not so
> quite
> satisfactin results easily so I dropped the SS like a "startin
> emulsion".
>
> Btw if I have the choice between a good, sharp, and easily
> modifiable
> emulsion like Acros 100 that has more a huge tonal response,
> almost
> no reciprocity effect (you can shoot until 120 sec. easily
> with no
> rec.effect), very sharp and thin grain, stunning results when
> developed with Xtol and my developers, and it cost no so
> more than
> SS why I have to use NEopan SS.
>
> Better have a better emulsion, and I think that if i want some
>
> visible grain I can start from Across and get grain or no
> grain
> prints. At my choice, and it's better. With Acros 100, in
> example, I
> easily got the choice of many parameters, including grain:
> with SS not.
>
> I write again: I'm not against grain. It's a invaluable
> component of
> our beloved silver prints, but the better i can choose for my
> contax
> and my rolleis, the better i can manipulate thos parameters.
>
> Ciao!
> Stefano Bramato
>
> PS: "et disco" is my sign! :-D
>
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> Et Disco
> (Ed io imparo)
>
>
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