[pure-silver] Re: Grain
- From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: PureSilverNew <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:24:34 +0100
Traditional emphasizing grain, digital trying to mimic it, now that¹s
ironic!
Actually, why compare? Ever tried to make digital negatives for traditional
printing?
You can have all the benefits of digital flexibility and archival, FB prints
to boot!
Yes, you can have the cake AND eat it!
Regards
Ralph W. Lambrecht
http://www.darkroomagic.com
On 2006-01-09 20:36, "Bob Younger" <younger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Until there was this need to distinguish between traditional
> photographic techniques (silver, plat., pall., etc.) and
> digital there was no need to emphasize grain or other
> artifacts of the various techniques. In fact, we strived for
> smooth, pure, rich tonal quality with exceptional (or at
> least predictable) levels of detail, whether in color or
> b&w.
>
> That you have to make your digital images look like less
> than high quality 'analog' images to be marketable is
> ironic. (I'm not taking into account the intentional use of
> grain that many photographic artists have utilized for
> various effects.)
>
> Bob Younger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
> Randall
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:19 AM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Grain
>
> I've been a pure silver member for a number of years and one
> theme that
> doesn't seem to go away is the constant complaint about
> grain. Et Disco just
> referred to it in response to a thread about Fuji Neopan 100
> SS. What is it
> about grain that makes most of you so un-happy. It is
> probably the only
> element in silver based photography that keeps images from
> looking like
> digital capture. So, it makes me wonder why so many of you
> try so hard to
> find a way to eliminate it. In case you're wondering, I love
> grain. I can't
> get enough of it. Most of my work flow is commercial and
> digital. One of the
> things I work hardest at is making digital files look like
> they were shot
> using film. Adding grain that looks realistic is a big part
> of the process.
> My clients all respond positively to digital images that are
> perceived
> visually to be silver based. I'm genuinely curious about
> this issue, so
> please don't misinterpret this email as a challenge on any
> level. Tell me
> why grain is so bad.
>
> Bob Randall
>
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