[pure-silver] Re: Grain

  • From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: PureSilverNew <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:57:44 +0100

Claudio

I find the price of $75 a bit hefty for a pdf file. Dan's book is very good
and costs a lot less. Also the sample chapter doesn't seem to work. Did you
buy it? Comments?





Regards



Ralph W. Lambrecht

http://www.darkroomagic.com







On 2006-01-11 09:57, "Claudio Bonavolta" <claudio@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Tim,
> 
> Could you keep us informed on your future tests ?
> I'm pretty interested by the subject too. Unfortunately, without having enough
> energy/time/money to spend on it.
> 
> Aside Dan Burkholder's book, there is also Mark Nelson's e-book
> (http://www.precisiondigitalnegatives.com), basically a procedure to calculate
> Photoshop curves to linearize the curve on the output paper (whatever it is).
> He also set up a mailing-list (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PDNPrint/) but
> the major activity is on alternative processes where the flaws of inkjet
> negatives show less.
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> Claudio Bonavolta
> http://www.bonavolta.ch
> 
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:38:30 -0000
> Sujet: [pure-silver] Re: Grain
> À: "'Len Eselson'" <leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Results are only suitable for contact printing Len, not for enlargement.
>> 
>> The best I know of are:
>> Pictorico OHP Transparency film
>> 
>> Pictorico Photo Gallery Hi-Gloss White Film - a more expensive white glossy
>> film that is much denser (semi-opaque) than OHP film. It holds ink better
>> and gives better detail and tonality for the unforgiving nature of glossy
>> silver prints. It can be printed through, but at the price of greatly
>> extended exposure times.
>> 
>> Permajet Digital Transfer film -  a similar transparent coated Clear High
>> Gloss Film and less expensive than the Pictorico above, using the same
>> ceramic particle technology.
>> 
>> Fotospeed Digital Contact Film is also a clear gloss ceramic technology
>> film, slightly thinner - I will be starting tests shortly.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Len Eselson [mailto:leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 10 January 2006 15:25
>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Tim Rudman
>> Subject: Re: [pure-silver] Re: Grain
>> 
>> Tim,
>> What materials did you use for your negatives made on inkjet printers ?
>> 
>> I tried to make digital masks on inkjet printers for conventional printing,
>> and for the materials I tried, found that they had a coating of some sort,
>> arranged in an orderly grid, which showed up in the print when it was
>> enlarged (MF negs, 16X20 prints)
>> 
>> I tried various materials, and printers. The best being the Epson 2200, and
>> Pictorico Transparancy Film but the results were not acceptable.
>> 
>> Have you found a combination which allows enlargement in the range of 8-10
>> times ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Len Eselson
>> 
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:34:47 -0000, Tim Rudman wrote:
>> 
>>> I have been experimenting a little with digital negatives, intended for
>>> silver, but also some examples with platinum.
>>> I joined Dan Burkholder on one of his 1 week workshops at the Formulary
>>> last year before giving mine there.
>>> I have compared image setter icefield negs and those from a number of
>>> inkjet printers (UK - 1290, 2100, 1400 - or I believe in the US 1280,
>>> 2200 & 2400)and on a variety of 'negative' materials.
>>> The results from desktop inkjet printers are getting pretty good for
>>> hand coated papers now. Silver gelatine glossy is less forgiving and
>>> results are not bad at all and silver gelatine matt. s/matt and
>>> textured are good. I imagine that they will continue to improve.
>> 
>>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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