[pure-silver] Re: Grain

  • From: Claudio Bonavolta <claudio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:57:32 +0100

Dear Tim,

Could you keep us informed on your future tests ?
I'm pretty interested by the subject too. Unfortunately, without having enough 
energy/time/money to spend on it.

Aside Dan Burkholder's book, there is also Mark Nelson's e-book 
(http://www.precisiondigitalnegatives.com), basically a procedure to calculate 
Photoshop curves to linearize the curve on the output paper (whatever it is).
He also set up a mailing-list (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PDNPrint/) but the 
major activity is on alternative processes where the flaws of inkjet negatives 
show less.

Thanks and best regards,
Claudio Bonavolta
http://www.bonavolta.ch

----- Message d'origine -----
De: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:38:30 -0000
Sujet: [pure-silver] Re: Grain
À: "'Len Eselson'" <leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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>Results are only suitable for contact printing Len, not for enlargement.
>
>The best I know of are:
>Pictorico OHP Transparency film 
>
>Pictorico Photo Gallery Hi-Gloss White Film - a more expensive white glossy
>film that is much denser (semi-opaque) than OHP film. It holds ink better
>and gives better detail and tonality for the unforgiving nature of glossy
>silver prints. It can be printed through, but at the price of greatly
>extended exposure times.
>
>Permajet Digital Transfer film -  a similar transparent coated Clear High
>Gloss Film and less expensive than the Pictorico above, using the same
>ceramic particle technology.
>
>Fotospeed Digital Contact Film is also a clear gloss ceramic technology
>film, slightly thinner - I will be starting tests shortly.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Len Eselson [mailto:leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: 10 January 2006 15:25
>To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Tim Rudman
>Subject: Re: [pure-silver] Re: Grain
>
>Tim,
>What materials did you use for your negatives made on inkjet printers ?
>
>I tried to make digital masks on inkjet printers for conventional printing,
>and for the materials I tried, found that they had a coating of some sort,
>arranged in an orderly grid, which showed up in the print when it was
>enlarged (MF negs, 16X20 prints)
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>I tried various materials, and printers. The best being the Epson 2200, and
>Pictorico Transparancy Film but the results were not acceptable.
>
>Have you found a combination which allows enlargement in the range of 8-10
>times ?
>
>Thanks
>
>Len Eselson
>
>On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:34:47 -0000, Tim Rudman wrote:
>
>>I have been experimenting a little with digital negatives, intended for 
>>silver, but also some examples with platinum.
>>I joined Dan Burkholder on one of his 1 week workshops at the Formulary 
>>last year before giving mine there.
>>I have compared image setter icefield negs and those from a number of 
>>inkjet printers (UK - 1290, 2100, 1400 - or I believe in the US 1280, 
>>2200 & 2400)and on a variety of 'negative' materials.
>>The results from desktop inkjet printers are getting pretty good for 
>>hand coated papers now. Silver gelatine glossy is less forgiving and 
>>results are not bad at all and silver gelatine matt. s/matt and 
>>textured are good. I imagine that they will continue to improve.
>
>>Tim
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