The problem with the rise in pH of D-76 with time is due to the oxidation of hydroquinone. This is a fairly complex reaction in which OH- ions are produced. It has nothing to due with either carbonates or borax. -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Black Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:51 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: D-76 and variations > > > The original D-76 formula and Ilford's published formula for ID-11 > are: > > Water (at 125F or 52C) 750.0 ml > Metol 2.0 grams > Sodium Sulfite, dessicated 100.0 grams > Hydroquinone 5.0 grams > Borax, granulated 2.0 grams > Water to make 1.0 liter > Seems like I remember the OLD original prewar formula for D76 was accelerated with Na Carbonate and had a problem with increasing activity with aging in solution that was traced to a rise in pH mediated by the carbonate. All of which was remedied by switching to borate accelerators/buffers. Am I dreaming or was that the case many years ago? JB ======================================================================== ===================================== To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.