Re: [PCWorks] How do I get this out of my system tray?
- From: james@xxxxxxxxxx
- To: pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:12:38 -0500
Have you tried to do a restore?
Quoting LarryB <larryb227@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> I really appreciate all the information late or not and obviously I
> will learn from all this.
>
> Presently I have kinda got it our of the systray but still get the
> yellow triangle with "System Alert: Trojan-Spy-Win32@mx"
>
> Then the moment I try to go to the Internet I get railroaded to
> "secureonlinetags.com" and have to use Task Manager to stop the
> initiated system scan that also starts.
>
> The site comes up with M$ colors and starts the scan.
> again the Task Manager stops it for the moment.
>
> When and If I get this thing resolved I'll be back for other setup
> instructions.
>
> Again Thanks for your time and effort all.
>
> Larry Browning
> K & L Electronics
> Anderson, SC
>
>
>
> Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin wrote:
>> I can't find your post now, but yesterday you asked about
>> Spyware Blaster and SpyBot and how they block things. I forgot
>> to answer that in my reply. I thought I already said this, but
>> Spyware Blaster does not have to be running in the background,
>> in fact, it can't. It works by simply placing thousands of bad
>> URL's and websites in the browser's Restricted Sites zone (FF
>> too), and using thousands of registry tags, downloaded program
>> files blockers, hosts file protection, etc., etc. All these
>> things prevent its detected malware from ever getting on your
>> PC. You have to be sure to "Enable all protection" with it,
>> and be sure to make backups with it. It can make a "System
>> snapshot", and backup important things that can be restored.
>>
>> SpyBot does it BOTH ways. In addition to what Spyware Blaster
>> does (using the "Immunize" button), it has two 'scanners'
>> so-to-speak. One is some kind of DLL, "Resident SD Helper"
>> that blocks all downloads from sites in its database. You did
>> not have it active, because like I said yesterday, I couldn't
>> even get to that website, it blocked me from it. The other is
>> a great one, "Resident TeaTimer" which DOES have to be running
>> in the background. It shows in the System Tray. This protects
>> you from things being added to the Start Up folder, and that
>> "Run-" area in the registry where things are added to startup
>> in Msconfig's area, as well as many other forms of protection.
>> NEITHER of these are checked by default, you have to check both
>> boxes in SpyBot's Tools > Resident area. Like a firewall,
>> TeaTimer will ask if you want to allow or deny action it
>> detects, and if you want it to remember the action. Then
>> there's also the "IE Tweaks" area that can "Lock the Hosts
>> file........." as protection against hijacks.
>>
>> None of this ever would have happened if you would have had
>> those areas active. But, now you know. ;-) Even if you click
>> on something bad, nothing will happen with these programs and
>> ALL of their features active (as long as the malware or website
>> is in its def's and database of course). But both the SD
>> Helper and TeaTimer also work off of heuristics and detection
>> of suspicious behavior, so even if something is not in their
>> def's, they can still protect you from the "actions" of said
>> malware.
>>
>> Regarding the firewall, regardless of how complicated they may
>> be, everyone should still use one. Even at their default
>> settings they are still better than nothing. Yes, like
>> anti-malware programs, one router is not enough. I guess two
>> is enough, anymore than that could lead to conflicts. A
>> hardware firewall (like from the router) is good for certain
>> things, but not for others. You will also get no warnings from
>> it when it blocks or allows traffic. A software firewall adds
>> another *configurable* layer of protection that protects
>> against far more things than just traffic. Using both, and
>> having both setup CORRECTLY, you have the best chance of
>> protecting yourself. It's sort of like a bulletproof vest;
>> level II is fine for most handguns (sort of like maybe the
>> router firewall), level III is fine for all but the most
>> powerful of handguns, and the new "dragon skin" type or level
>> III+ with the ceramic shield will stop anything except the .50
>> cal or magnum sniper rifles at close range, which is in a
>> manner of speaking what you want to achieve with your PC.
>> -Clint
>>
>> God Bless
>> Clint Hamilton, Owner
>> http://www.OrpheusComputing.com[1]
>> http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com[2]
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "LarryB"
>>
>> Thanks for the input Hugh.
>> You are probably right in that I clicked on something that
>> triggered
>> this whole mess. Time pushing is often the culprit and slowing
>> down
>> would be the cure.
>> I have done the "immunize" in Spybot on all 3 of my computers
>> so that's
>> done. I have also installed Comodo Firewall Pro on just one so
>> we'll see
>> how that works. It appears to be easier to understand vs Sygate
>> so far.
>>
>>
>> LarryB
>> Have a great day
>>
>>
>> Hugh Vandervoort wrote:
>>> No firewall or router can protect you from packets you allow.
>>> You were
>>> enticed, somehow, to click on something malicious, and no
>>> firewall can
>>> protect from that. The only protection is to be more careful,
>>> and that's
>>> not always easy as these guys are very clever (Click here to
>>> Feed the
>>> Homeless!)
>>> I have found home firewalls to be a source of far more
>>> irritation than
>>> protection. While they have come a long way, they are still a
>>> source of
>>> confusion and irritation to many, and not worth it for the
>>> average user.
>>> If you haven't used Spybot's "Immunize" feature yet, I
>>> encourage you to
>>> do so.
>>>
Links:
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[1] http://www.orpheuscomputing.com/
[2] http://www.computerscustombuilt.com/
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