Re: [PCWorks] How do I get this out of my system tray?
- From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin" <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:15:32 -0500
I can't find your post now, but yesterday you asked about
Spyware Blaster and SpyBot and how they block things. I forgot
to answer that in my reply. I thought I already said this, but
Spyware Blaster does not have to be running in the background,
in fact, it can't. It works by simply placing thousands of bad
URL's and websites in the browser's Restricted Sites zone (FF
too), and using thousands of registry tags, downloaded program
files blockers, hosts file protection, etc., etc. All these
things prevent its detected malware from ever getting on your
PC. You have to be sure to "Enable all protection" with it,
and be sure to make backups with it. It can make a "System
snapshot", and backup important things that can be restored.
SpyBot does it BOTH ways. In addition to what Spyware Blaster
does (using the "Immunize" button), it has two 'scanners'
so-to-speak. One is some kind of DLL, "Resident SD Helper"
that blocks all downloads from sites in its database. You did
not have it active, because like I said yesterday, I couldn't
even get to that website, it blocked me from it. The other is
a great one, "Resident TeaTimer" which DOES have to be running
in the background. It shows in the System Tray. This protects
you from things being added to the Start Up folder, and that
"Run-" area in the registry where things are added to startup
in Msconfig's area, as well as many other forms of protection.
NEITHER of these are checked by default, you have to check both
boxes in SpyBot's Tools > Resident area. Like a firewall,
TeaTimer will ask if you want to allow or deny action it
detects, and if you want it to remember the action. Then
there's also the "IE Tweaks" area that can "Lock the Hosts
file........." as protection against hijacks.
None of this ever would have happened if you would have had
those areas active. But, now you know. ;-) Even if you click
on something bad, nothing will happen with these programs and
ALL of their features active (as long as the malware or website
is in its def's and database of course). But both the SD
Helper and TeaTimer also work off of heuristics and detection
of suspicious behavior, so even if something is not in their
def's, they can still protect you from the "actions" of said
malware.
Regarding the firewall, regardless of how complicated they may
be, everyone should still use one. Even at their default
settings they are still better than nothing. Yes, like
anti-malware programs, one router is not enough. I guess two
is enough, anymore than that could lead to conflicts. A
hardware firewall (like from the router) is good for certain
things, but not for others. You will also get no warnings from
it when it blocks or allows traffic. A software firewall adds
another *configurable* layer of protection that protects
against far more things than just traffic. Using both, and
having both setup CORRECTLY, you have the best chance of
protecting yourself. It's sort of like a bulletproof vest;
level II is fine for most handguns (sort of like maybe the
router firewall), level III is fine for all but the most
powerful of handguns, and the new "dragon skin" type or level
III+ with the ceramic shield will stop anything except the .50
cal or magnum sniper rifles at close range, which is in a
manner of speaking what you want to achieve with your PC.
-Clint
God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryB"
Thanks for the input Hugh.
You are probably right in that I clicked on something that
triggered
this whole mess. Time pushing is often the culprit and slowing
down
would be the cure.
I have done the "immunize" in Spybot on all 3 of my computers
so that's
done. I have also installed Comodo Firewall Pro on just one so
we'll see
how that works. It appears to be easier to understand vs Sygate
so far.
LarryB
Have a great day
Hugh Vandervoort wrote:
> No firewall or router can protect you from packets you allow.
> You were
> enticed, somehow, to click on something malicious, and no
> firewall can
> protect from that. The only protection is to be more careful,
> and that's
> not always easy as these guys are very clever (Click here to
> Feed the
> Homeless!)
> I have found home firewalls to be a source of far more
> irritation than
> protection. While they have come a long way, they are still a
> source of
> confusion and irritation to many, and not worth it for the
> average user.
> If you haven't used Spybot's "Immunize" feature yet, I
> encourage you to
> do so.
>
>
> It also got by my routers firewall! I remember someone saying
> if you
> have a router you do not need a firewall on your computer
> also. At this
> point I might add another one then I'll have 3 of them ;-)
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