Mark Aitken wrote: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/1 0-17-2006/0004453407&EDATE= The referenced articles explain that this is an LG 5th gen based design, and the performance even in Manhattan appears to be as Mark Schubin described for the LG prototype STB. It also works for analog and digital cable TV (I don't think it has a CableCard feature). So aside from the small form factor, these devices have been around for some time. The Forbes article says, "But sales of the devices have been hampered by limited distribution and virtually no marketing." The Display Daily article says, "This company enables HD on the PC using portable HD tuners that get their signals not over the internet (IPTV) but over the air (OTA). (For those of you too young to remember, OTA is the old-fashioned way of receiving TV signals, popular before the age of satellites and cable delivery.)" This is the problem, as far as I can tell. A strangely ignorant public, whose ignorance can only be assumed to be fostered by the industry itself. Retailers, CE vendors, even broadcasters. How else to explain the above quote? Much the same as HD Radio, IMO. By the way, I called Sangean last night. They said the HDT-1 stereo tuner would be in their warehouses end of November, and in stores by December. Cutting pretty darned close for the holidays, but still good news. I wonder if many other companies will also market these, with their brand names on them, in the same time frame? I'd love to see some mention of mobile reception capability, especially when the Samsung Gemini starts appearing in these devices. The Gemini chip measures quite a bit better than the LG in terms of dynamic echo tolerance, so that ought to help. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.