[opendtv] Re: HDTV DVB-T receiver for the UK
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:52:24 -0500
Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
The question ought to be, given that 8-VSB
> receivers have been designed to work right, given
> that the working solutions were supposed to be on
> the market last quarter, *now* what's the holdup?
I'm not sure all that is a given. It is possible the receiver demo'd at
Marks apartment was a one shot deal that for some reason worked
(effectively) only in similar situations for some reason and not well in
the general case. It is also possible it contained very expensive
circuitry that cannot be effectively produced and marketed yet,
regardless of what is claimed for some soon-arriving integrated TV's.
But even assuming it was really the promised miracle chip I still do not
really see who would stand to gain by holding it off the market. It
would seem even Zenith would make more licensing it productively to
other STB makers than they would using it to gain a competitive
advantage in their TV sales. I don't think most people buy HD displays
based upon the quality of the ATSC receiver anyway. My last AVS
hardware poll showed only a tiny percentage of HD watch using integrated
ATSC tuners.
Everybody is asking who stands to gain. I have no idea but am open to
suggestions.
- Tom
> Tom Barry wrote:
>
>
>>I've obviously become somewhat disgruntled on
>>this myself. I figured that if it was only chip
>>complexity that was the problem then Moore's Law
>>would solve it for us.
>>
>>But having apparently been fooled one more time
>>I am not very inclined at the moment to believe
>>further promises.
>>
>>The modulation standard debate in the USA
>>certainly does seem settled. And I don't know
>>even know if COFDM would be any better.
>
>
> That last sentence is really the whole point. If
> I were to subscribe to conspiracy theories, I'd
> say that those responsible for keeping the good
> 8-VSB receivers out of the market would do exactly
> the same thing with COFDM products. They would
> make sure that the ones sold here would have
> inadequate dynamic range and inadequate
> selectivity, knowing full well that those two
> measurements are critical in US markets.
>
>
>>But I can certainly still voice the opinion that
>>there is still something suspiciously wrong with
>>ATSC.
>
>
> Something might seem suspiciously wrong, but not
> necessarily with the ATSC. Who is likely to gain
> if OTA doesn't work any better with DTT than it
> did with analog? Not the broadcasters.
>
> All I'm saying is that if we're looking for
> ulterior motives, now that obviously well designed
> 8-VSB receivers have been proven to be feasible,
> we should move beyond the self pity (even outright
> groveling) about ATSC and take in a broader view,
> no? The question ought to be, given that 8-VSB
> receivers have been designed to work right, given
> that the working solutions were supposed to be on
> the market last quarter, *now* what's the holdup?
>
> Bert
>
>
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