John Golitsis wrote: > And just so the full story is re-told, that "receiver" was offered by the > manufacturer as one that would fit the needs of the testing. We all read > the official request, and the official reply, and the manufacturer failed to > make any mention at all of it's need for front end filtering. Nor did > Sinclair who was in possession of the receiver before it was passed on to > the NAB. > > Of course, AFTER the testing was completed is when this all came up. How > bloody convenient. Yes indeed. But note that if that test had used a pure gridded site selection process, covering that actual-use coverage area of Washington DC stations, ATSC would have won, as it always has, whether or not the COFDM receiver had had a better RF pre-filter. All apples versus apples tests (i.e. same bitrate in same bandwidth) of ATSC versus COFDM have always resulted in ATSC winning ... so long as they were not biased so that ATSC's strength, better C/N performance, was intentionally not tested, by using only locations very close to the receiver. ******************************************************************** I have made some recent extensive tests of ATSC at my home and the results are dramatic: I frequently have ATSC reception on some channels when the corresponding, colocated, adjacent channel, NTSC will NOT SYNC on my TV set. Some of the non-sync cases are due to low signal, and some to multipath. occasionally I get ATSC reception when there is no corresponding NTSC visible AT ALL. In one case this is very frequent, though the channels are not adjacent (44 and 55). I recently obtained a broadband 2.5 dB NF preamp, which is 3 dB better than my old ones, and the result is frequent reception of a station (off the back of a very high F/B ratio antenna) that I previously thought was not receivable due to multipath! Nevertheless, I'd love to try one of the 5th generation "true miracle" boxes and see if it gave me more stations off the wrong antenna. Doug McDonald ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.