Sorry Tim, I've had enough of the drivel from that 'gobsmacked' salesman and refuse to participate in this any more. I'm not here to be insulted. If you'd like to continue this discussion off list, please feel free to email me directly. Dave _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/