[lit-ideas] Re: MH, with updated linkhttp://www.corriere.it/english/15_febbraio_09/heidegger-jews-self-destructed-47cd3930-b03b-11e4-8615-d0fd07eabd28.shtmling

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:13:24 +0100

Well, I am not sure why this is posted as something worthy of attention,
but since it is...

1. The Jews in the early 20. century did not have a 'land', at least not in
the sense of nation-state, but they had a tradition. That tradition makes
claims about their history that are probably largely false - for example,
extensive archaelogical excavations at Jerusalem have failed to turn up the
supposed city of David and Solomon - but tradition they had. They also had
several languages of their own.

2. Genetical studies of Ashkenazi Jews have shown a fair amount of genetic
uniformity among them, probably not less than most modern nations have.

3. Until relatively recent times, the Jews were not particularly
technologically advanced. The most technologically advanced civilization on
the Earth until the 17th century (if not later) was China, which didn't
have too many Jews.

4. The Jews in late medieval Europe onward were connected with banking, but
this wasn't so much for reasons of culture or lack of it. The main reason
is that they were barred from possessing land in most medieval European
states (excepting Poland where they engaged in agricultural occupations)
and often also from artisan occupations (by the guilds; in Ottoman empire,
they worked as artisans).True, it helped that the Jewish religion did not
prohibit usury while medieval Christianity attempted to prohibit it,
although the Catholic Venice, Florence, and Genoa had bankers.

Thus, Heigger's premises are largely false, although even if they were true
this would not in any way warrant the conclusion.

O.K.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> *http://www.corriere.it/english/15_febbraio_09/heidegger-jews-self-destructed-47cd3930-b03b-11e4-8615-d0fd07eabd28.shtml*
> <http://www.corriere.it/english/15_febbraio_09/heidegger-jews-self-destructed-47cd3930-b03b-11e4-8615-d0fd07eabd28.shtml>
>
> The link (above this line) was provided to me by colleagues. It gives the
> article, in the English version, detailing how the self styled philosopher
> of “being” and authetincity was starkly anti-Semitic. What is interesting
> about the issue is not that yet another Nazi semi criminal is exposed,
> after a century from the fact, nearly a century. What is interesting is
> that this “Heidegger” has an argument. It goes as follows: to be able to
> reach ‘being’ [don’t ask why anyone should reach a verb or be exposed to a
> verb etc.] one needs a specified grounding.
> Step 1 the grounding is given by the Blut und Boden, the land, the
> tradition, even more weirdly by a “language” (he calls language something
> like his idiolect of Germanic descent, Greek is a language, nobody knows
> why but Mongolian does not qualify, nor it can be a vehicle of thought
> since thought is reserved for the master race)
> Step 2: the jews have no such thing (well, at that time there was no Eretz
> Israel as nation-state in the tradition of political philosophy, there were
> 5 jewish languages, the religious jews always claimed that they had a land,
> it was given to them by GD etc. cfr Abraham in the “bible” and so forth,
> but skip, the idea that there is a truth escapes the buffoon in lederhosen
> since “truth” is revealed in the wood, “aletheia” and all of that)
> Step3 since the jews have no tradition in the relevant sense, they “do”
> techniques (of dentistry, banking, some even films and music, not to
> mention chemistry and physics)
> Step 4 the duder “knows” in his perverted brain that “technique” is not a
> technique, it is a Gestell “ a systemic state of mind”
> Step 5 MH concludes glibly that “Technkik” killed the jews (Zyklon,
> machine guns, showers that boil people to death, etc.)
>
> Step 6 and, then it is clear that “jews self-annihilated
> Honest colleagues that do not suffer the bizarre condition of “transfert”
> (term adopted by Miller, French psychoanalyst who describe the interest and
> fascination with MH as sexual in nature, in the form in which S. Freud
> predicted) are invited to look at vol 97 of the “works” by this Heidegger,
> available as of today.
> The author of the, linked, article, is a philosopher in Rome at “Sapienza”
> (roughly “wisdom” the name of the university of Rome—
>
>
> bestest
>
>

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