[lit-ideas] Re: MH, with updated linkhttp://www.corriere.it/english/15_febbraio_09/heidegger-jews-self-destructed-47cd3930-b03b-11e4-8615-d0fd07eabd28.shtmling

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:13:29 +0100

If you want to read an intelligent anti-Semite try Eustace Mullins, the
Secret History of the Jews.

O.K.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Correct, (directed at Omar Kusturica) the premises are false, I try
> occasionally to accept that even false shit, like Heidegger’s utter
> bullshit, can be adopted “for the sake of a discussion”
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> Bestest
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> *From:* lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Omar Kusturica
> *Sent:* 12 February 2015 12:13
> *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: MH, with updated linkhttp://
> www.corriere.it/english/15_febbraio_09/heidegger-jews-self-destructed-47cd3930-b03b-11e4-8615-d0fd07eabd28.shtmling
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> Well, I am not sure why this is posted as something worthy of attention,
> but since it is...
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> 1. The Jews in the early 20. century did not have a 'land', at least not
> in the sense of nation-state, but they had a tradition. That tradition
> makes claims about their history that are probably largely false - for
> example, extensive archaelogical excavations at Jerusalem have failed to
> turn up the supposed city of David and Solomon - but tradition they had.
> They also had several languages of their own.
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> 2. Genetical studies of Ashkenazi Jews have shown a fair amount of genetic
> uniformity among them, probably not less than most modern nations have.
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> 3. Until relatively recent times, the Jews were not particularly
> technologically advanced. The most technologically advanced civilization on
> the Earth until the 17th century (if not later) was China, which didn't
> have too many Jews.
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> 4. The Jews in late medieval Europe onward were connected with banking,
> but this wasn't so much for reasons of culture or lack of it. The main
> reason is that they were barred from possessing land in most medieval
> European states (excepting Poland where they engaged in agricultural
> occupations) and often also from artisan occupations (by the guilds; in
> Ottoman empire, they worked as artisans).True, it helped that the Jewish
> religion did not prohibit usury while medieval Christianity attempted to
> prohibit it, although the Catholic Venice, Florence, and Genoa had bankers.
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> Thus, Heigger's premises are largely false, although even if they were
> true this would not in any way warrant the conclusion.
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> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> http://www.corriere.it/english/15_febbraio_09/heidegger-jews-self-destructed-47cd3930-b03b-11e4-8615-d0fd07eabd28.shtml
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> The link (above this line) was provided to me by colleagues. It gives the
> article, in the English version, detailing how the self styled philosopher
> of “being” and authetincity was starkly anti-Semitic. What is interesting
> about the issue is not that yet another Nazi semi criminal is exposed,
> after a century from the fact, nearly a century. What is interesting is
> that this “Heidegger” has an argument. It goes as follows: to be able to
> reach ‘being’ [don’t ask why anyone should reach a verb or be exposed to a
> verb etc.] one needs a specified grounding.
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> Step 1 the grounding is given by the Blut und Boden, the land, the
> tradition, even more weirdly by a “language” (he calls language something
> like his idiolect of Germanic descent, Greek is a language, nobody knows
> why but Mongolian does not qualify, nor it can be a vehicle of thought
> since thought is reserved for the master race)
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> Step 2: the jews have no such thing (well, at that time there was no Eretz
> Israel as nation-state in the tradition of political philosophy, there were
> 5 jewish languages, the religious jews always claimed that they had a land,
> it was given to them by GD etc. cfr Abraham in the “bible” and so forth,
> but skip, the idea that there is a truth escapes the buffoon in lederhosen
> since “truth” is revealed in the wood, “aletheia” and all of that)
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> Step3 since the jews have no tradition in the relevant sense, they “do”
> techniques (of dentistry, banking, some even films and music, not to
> mention chemistry and physics)
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> Step 4 the duder “knows” in his perverted brain that “technique” is not a
> technique, it is a Gestell “ a systemic state of mind”
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> Step 5 MH concludes glibly that “Technkik” killed the jews (Zyklon,
> machine guns, showers that boil people to death, etc.)
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> Step 6 and, then it is clear that “jews self-annihilated
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> Honest colleagues that do not suffer the bizarre condition of “transfert”
> (term adopted by Miller, French psychoanalyst who describe the interest and
> fascination with MH as sexual in nature, in the form in which S. Freud
> predicted) are invited to look at vol 97 of the “works” by this Heidegger,
> available as of today.
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> The author of the, linked, article, is a philosopher in Rome at “Sapienza”
> (roughly “wisdom” the name of the university of Rome—
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