> [Original Message] > From: Teemu Pyyluoma <teme17@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2/9/2006 1:15:27 AM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Link to "Mohammed" cartoons > > > The problem is that real racism, which is certainly an > issue in Denmark (and Sweden, and pretty much every > else...) is magnified in the eye of its victim. Every > unfriendly official, failed job interview, pretty much > any hardship in life becomes tainted with the > suspision that it is because of my skin, faith or > origin. > This is true. It's like slapping someone on the back who has a sunburn as opposed to someone without a sunburn. > To say, as Stan does, that Muslims were "welcomed" in > Denmark is to my knowledge not true, but I haven't > kept in touch with the few Danes I know nor have I > been there for a long while, so maybe Andreas or > someone else will correct me if I'm wrong here. It > seems to me that the Danish Muslims outraged are > outraged in general about their plight, I very much > doubt that had say Maroccan newspaper ran exactly the > same cartoons there would've been such uproar. > > What you seem to advocate is that rest of the society > should under such circumstances be extremely > sensitive. This is humane, civil, appealing, unhelpful > and unrealistic. Unrealistic because it's humane, civil and appealing. Humans are better at throwing crap. Many Europeans have deep suspicions > about immigrant in general, and do assosiate Islam > with Terrorism. We can't wish or legistalate this > away. > We can have a war over it instead. > Denmark, nay Europe, needs a long, thorough and > sustained debate on immigration and the role of > religion on the society. Ignorant, idiotic views need > to be protested like many Muslims and others are > doing, in general shown wrong and ridiculed. We can't > do this if such views are silenced. I most certainly > do not want to hand the caweman group the opportunity > to cry victim over censorship. > > Europe had major tens of millions dead type wars. They're as uncivilized as anybody anywhere. Censorship wasn't necessary, just a little humanity. Didn't happen. > Cheers, > Teemu > Helsinki, Finland > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html