--- On Thu, 12/2/10, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Glad of that second "Rousseau", rather than "he", without which the second clause has another possible meaning. If I were asked, I'd have to check - and only this week unfortunately the local library demanded back its copy of 'The Open Society'. All I can say is, having returned volume 1 on 'Plato', it seems totalitarianism has a lot of fathers. Is there a major thinker that wasn't linked to totalitarianism in some way or other ? O.K.