"Biff," take that. "Zonk" "oof" I've been discussing things as elaborately as the subject matter seems to deserve. "kick," "take that you dirty conservative." "Bonk" "ouch!" Well, yes, tis true. I'm not terribly impressed with the Left's ability to reason. I may have let that drop now and again. They don't seem able to develop an argument and support it very well. "Oh yeah. Says who? Who do you think you are? You just think you are soooo tough. Former Marine, guns & stuff, makes me soooo sick!" As I indicated, I have read a number of people from the Left who apply full blame on the US for 9/11. Think Ward Churchill. "You leave poor Ward alone. What did he ever do to you? You hate Indians don't you, don't you, go on admit it. Afraid to, aren't you? Just as I thought: No guts." Does the Left have something positive to offer about what should be done in the War against Terror? It sounds rather hard to believe. No fair assuming the destruction or the disbanding of the U.S. or the destruction of Israel. "Think you're soooo smart, don't you? Well I'm here to tell you, you don't know half of what you think you do, no not a quarter -- not even an eighth or a sixteenth -- not a thirty second or a sixty forth . . . not a gaa gaaa gaaaa [Duet sung by Lawrence, baritone, and Simon, tenor altino] _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Ward Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:08 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Five Years Ago More of Lawrence's standard fayre. On the one side we have his predominant position that the left can't read the situation, that it is incorrect in applying full blame on the US for 9/11. (It doesn't of course, but we shouldn't let facts get in the way of rhetoric.) On the other side we have his other position that the left thinks the US and Britain should get out of Iraq now. Notice that all he ever seems to be concerned about is the political opposition. It doesn't matter about those in power. Why's that? Interesting leap between the two of course. On one side we have the consideration of blame, whilst on the other the consideration of policy. What happens when we swap the two about? The questions become: What does the left consider should be done in the 'War on Terror'? Who is to blame for the situation in Iraq? No doubt Lawrence could supply answers to both. First though he should make a study of the word nuance. Simon