[lit-ideas] Re: 3 SUICIDES AT GUANTANAMO
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:21:51 -0400
This is manhood in a lot of the world. Here in the U.S. it's alive and
well, but it's more hidden, such as when we invade countries or demand the
right to carry guns to protect ourselves. Hand to hand is not favored and
is called assault and battery. If you're such a fighter, Omar, and
fighting is so in the natural scheme of things, then you have no right to
complain about the U.S. Birds of a feather, Omar.
> [Original Message]
> From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 6/14/2006 8:26:51 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: 3 SUICIDES AT GUANTANAMO
>
> I am not stronger than anyone I know, but then I know
> quite a lot of people who are into martial arts,
> fighting and so on. I've never practiced any martial
> art, myself. I take my chances with such people but I
> don't necessarily come out on top. I had an encounter
> two years ago with an Irish guy who is smaller than me
> but has practiced boxing, jiu-jizu, almost anything
> you can think of, and you could probably I got beaten
> although I stood my ground and also he hit me first.
> Hitting first is very important in fights, especially
> psychologically. Also, I was probably in a better
> shape when I was 30, now I have put on unproductive
> weight and also after my ancle injury two years ago I
> am not as light on my feet as I used to be. So, no
> hybristic superpower here, only a guy who is pretty
> strong and is not afraid.
>
> O.K.
>
>
> --- Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Omar,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ah the hubris of being 35. I remember it well. I
> > was a gymnast in high
> > school, rather tall for that at 5' 10" but I managed
> > at a wiry155 pounds.
> > When I got out of the Marine Corps at age 20 I was
> > 160 pounds. I worked on
> > the docks to supplement the G.I. Bill and by the
> > time I graduated at age 24
> > I was 165 pounds. I had always worked out with
> > weights to some extent but
> > at about the age of 30 decided to do it seriously,
> > heavy weights 3 hours a
> > day, 3 times a week for several years. By the time
> > I was 35 I weighed 187
> > and was stronger than anyone I knew. I did get mad
> > a time or two at
> > different people and challenge them to step out in
> > the parking lot. When
> > you're the strongest person you know it's hard not
> > to do that - especially
> > since anyone could see how strong I was and wasn't
> > about to step out into a
> > parking lot to fight me. At work they always called
> > upon me to move the
> > heavy file cabinets, desks etc. My boss nicknamed
> > me "superman." So I know
> > what you're going through, Omar.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alas, I have to tell you it doesn't last. At age 71
> > I still have the
> > weights, but it gets harder and harder to do any
> > serious lifting without
> > pulling something or other and then it takes a long
> > time to heal. I was out
> > running with my dogs on June 4th and tripped on
> > something and went down hard
> > on my left hand which somehow or other jarred things
> > all the way up to my
> > shoulder. It still hurts. I think even Mike Geary
> > could whip me today.
> >
> >
> >
> > But isn't this what the U.S. is being accused of?
> > Isn't the U.S. a bit like
> > you are at the present time? It can whip anyone it
> > knows and so challenges
> > nations to either shut up or step out into he
> > parking lot with it. While
> > Europe is a bit like I am now - much older than and
> > not nearly as tough as
> > it used to be - all that saber rattling seems so,
> > so, well juvenile. Why
> > can't the U.S. and Omar act a little more like me?
> >
> >
> >
> > Lawrence
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Omar Kusturica
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:33 AM
> > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: 3 SUICIDES AT GUANTANAMO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> >
> > --- Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Omar Kusturica:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > "Now, Phil, I suggest that you shut your Canadian
> >
> > > theologian liberal
> >
> > > Christian mouth the fuck up."
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > No.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Paraphrasing Eric, "Nyah, nyah"
> >
> >
> >
> > *Come on, Phil. You don't really want a serious
> >
> > confrontation. (If for no other reason, you wouldn't
> >
> > want to gratify me.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >> Phil Enns
> >
> > > Toronto, ON
> >
> > >
> >
> > > p.s. I am not liberal.
> >
> >
> >
> > *It's just a part of your multiideological identity.
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K.
> >
> >
> >
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