[lit-ideas] Re: 3 SUICIDES AT GUANTANAMO

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:41:40 -0400

The FDR connection is specious.  WWII was a discrete war with discrete,
defined enemies.  This "war on terror" is a "long war", with no defined
enemy except for an occasional leader like OBL or Zarqawi.  In the time it
took to win all of WWII, we managed only to kill one guy.  There is no
military enemy whatsoever, and our military techniques, so effective in
WWII, are all but useless to the point of being counterproductive.  We will
win a war against gambling and prostitution about the same day we win the
war against terror.  It has to be managed, not fought.  To prevent another
9/11 you will have make box cutters and passenger airplanes illegal. 
Failing that, you have to take away liberties.  Using an economics analogy,
which says prices are sticky downward, i.e., they rise more easily than
fall, liberties are more easily lost than won.  OBL claimed that he would
win against the U.S. by bleeding it the way he bled the Soviet Union.  He
did not cause the fall of the SU, but did open up a few other arteries
while they collapsed.  He?s doing that here and you're not seeing it. 
Benjamin Franklin said, a small leak will sink a great ship.  Ours is more
than a small leak.  But, like I said, you will you will never ever see it. 
On with killing ten innocent men to make sure one guilty one doesn't get
away.



> [Original Message]
> From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 6/12/2006 1:14:46 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: 3 SUICIDES AT GUANTANAMO
>
> "Eric," writes Andyrene, "you are a Stalinist, there's no 
> question."
>
>
> I admire FDR. He did everything he could to win his war, and 
> the population of the US knew it was war and acted like it.
>
> Bush can't even convince the population there is a war. If 
> anyone is pursuing "the illusion of safety," it's the 
> suburban nihilists who think they can wish the conflict away 
> and retreat to the cliches of their Sixties-left childhoods.
> The Islamists know there is a war and are counting on the US 
> suburban nihilists to help win it for them.
>
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